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join: rgrinberg (~rgrinberg@24-246-56-85.cable.teksavvy.com) joined #forth 13:50:53 --- quit: impomatic (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 13:50:57 ...so you admit RPN math gives people headaches? ;D 14:10:32 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@121.54.90.147) joined #forth 14:22:44 --- join: dual (~bonafide@cpe-74-75-153-119.maine.res.rr.com) joined #forth 14:34:19 --- quit: neceve (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 14:37:11 --- join: neceve (~ncv@79.115.225.255) joined #forth 14:37:11 --- quit: neceve (Changing host) 14:37:11 --- join: neceve (~ncv@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #forth 14:37:13 --- quit: rgrinberg (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14:44:35 --- quit: neceve (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 14:57:16 --- quit: ricky_ricardo (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15:06:57 --- quit: zincing (Quit: Leaving) 15:19:16 I think I need to learn macros now 15:37:53 --- join: ricky_ricardo (~rickyrica@2601:240:4203:ecb0:7528:b66c:4547:8058) joined #forth 15:59:11 --- quit: dual (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 16:12:25 Is there any ANS way to make definitions that don't have names besides :noname? 16:26:18 reepca: The S/K/ID combinators make silent words http://soton.mpeforth.com/flag/jfar/vol4/no4/article6.pdf 16:26:47 : (: POSTPONE AHEAD HERE ; IMMEDIATE 16:26:47 : ;) >R POSTPONE EXIT POSTPONE THEN R> POSTPONE LITERAL ; IMMEDIATE 16:32:54 Also, you may try to use classical R> ... EXECUTE trick. But ANS doesn't support it :) 16:34:48 : zeroes ( a - #z) 0 swap each: 0= if 1+ then ; 16:35:44 I was especially thinking along the lines of CREATE ... DOES> words, since presumably having the same code for multiple words provides an advantage in terms of space. 16:35:49 Try to restore the definition of each: ;) 17:35:08 --- quit: mnemnia (Remote host closed the connection) 17:45:23 --- quit: wa5qjh (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 18:00:04 --- quit: true-grue (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18:02:07 --- join: vsg1990 (~vsg1990@static-72-88-80-103.bflony.fios.verizon.net) joined #forth 18:22:58 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@2601:643:8102:7c95:e8d9:72b6:26c5:2f52) joined #forth 18:27:29 --- quit: mnemnion (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 18:45:10 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@2601:643:8102:7c95:e8d9:72b6:26c5:2f52) joined #forth 18:47:17 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@121.54.90.147) joined #forth 19:06:30 --- quit: wa5qjh (Remote host closed the connection) 19:09:35 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@121.54.90.147) joined #forth 21:17:08 --- quit: ricky_ricardo (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 22:37:53 --- quit: vsg1990 (Quit: Leaving) 22:41:53 --- join: rgrinberg (~rgrinberg@24-246-56-85.cable.teksavvy.com) joined #forth 23:47:31 --- quit: rgrinberg (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/17.01.13