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16:10:27 i think it was covered in startin forth but i'm not finding its definition 16:15:37 just i? 16:16:02 perhaps it is just an synonym for R@ meant to be used inside of DO LOOPs 16:19:19 --- quit: yiimi (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 16:35:00 Zarutian, i and r@ are not always the same. if the forth has do loops i reads 2 numbers off the return stack, adds them and puts the result on the parameter stack... do loops put start/end indicies on the return stack but they are fudged. to get the current index i adds the two fudged values 16:35:29 if the forth only has for next loops i could be the same as r@ because a for loop only puts one item on the return stack 16:35:55 mark4: for next loops indeed 16:36:43 if no do loops then i would be r@ but i consider that a confusion of the waters, they should have chosen a different word name to get the index of for/next loops 16:36:48 i j and k are for do loops 16:37:11 isforth has for/next and do loops. it also has a rep word which uses for loops 10 rep foo 16:37:47 i j and k are use in do loops r@ is used in for loops. foo cant get the index to the loop at all without return stack juggling it should not do 16:47:46 --- quit: DKordic (Remote host closed the connection) 16:48:34 --- join: DKordic (~user@93-86-133-72.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs) joined #forth 16:49:37 --- join: nal (~nal@adsl-72-50-87-84.prtc.net) joined #forth 16:56:26 --- quit: nal (Remote host closed the connection) 16:57:31 --- join: roboguy` (~roboguy_@212.59.124.24.cm.sunflower.com) joined #forth 17:04:10 --- join: ricky_ricardo (~rickyrica@2601:240:4203:ecb0:35d8:9d26:248e:c1b9) joined #forth 17:18:11 --- quit: rgrinberg (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 17:18:29 --- join: nighty (~nighty@d246113.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) joined #forth 17:18:45 --- quit: Uniju (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 17:25:51 --- quit: Zarutian (Quit: Zarutian) 17:41:40 --- join: roboguy`_ (~roboguy_@206.59.124.24.cm.sunflower.com) joined #forth 17:44:59 --- quit: roboguy` (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 17:48:58 --- quit: DKordic (Remote host closed the connection) 17:49:49 --- join: DKordic (~user@93-86-133-72.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs) joined #forth 18:00:52 --- join: nal (~nal@adsl-72-50-87-84.prtc.net) joined #forth 18:06:27 --- quit: nal (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 18:11:11 --- join: groovy2shoes (~groovy2sh@unaffiliated/groovebot) joined #forth 18:17:55 --- join: nal (~nal@adsl-72-50-85-19.prtc.net) joined #forth 18:45:20 --- join: neceve (~ncv@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #forth 18:50:17 --- join: rgrinberg (~rgrinberg@24-246-56-85.cable.teksavvy.com) joined #forth 18:55:32 --- quit: roboguy`_ (Remote host closed the connection) 18:56:07 --- join: roboguy` (~roboguy_@212.59.124.24.cm.sunflower.com) joined #forth 18:59:30 --- quit: roboguy` (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18:59:50 --- join: roboguy` (~roboguy_@212.59.124.24.cm.sunflower.com) joined #forth 19:33:12 --- quit: fiddlerwoaroof (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19:45:20 --- join: fiddlerwoaroof (~fiddlerwo@unaffiliated/fiddlerwoaroof) joined #forth 20:17:17 --- quit: groovy2shoes (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 20:29:22 --- join: groovy2shoes (~groovy2sh@unaffiliated/groovebot) joined #forth 20:41:53 --- join: roboguy`_ (~roboguy_@206.59.124.24.cm.sunflower.com) joined #forth 20:44:55 --- quit: roboguy` (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 21:10:11 --- quit: ricky_ricardo (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 21:17:24 --- quit: nal (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 21:26:36 --- join: nal (~nal@adsl-72-50-86-147.prtc.net) joined #forth 21:41:05 --- quit: nal (Quit: WeeChat 1.4) 21:51:34 --- quit: neceve (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 22:03:02 --- quit: karswell (Remote host closed the connection) 22:03:29 --- join: karswell` (~user@127.209.208.46.dyn.plus.net) joined #forth 22:07:57 --- quit: ASau (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22:08:03 --- join: ASau` (~user@x52716a05.dyn.telefonica.de) joined #forth 22:18:01 --- quit: ASau` (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 22:35:03 --- quit: roboguy`_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22:35:54 --- join: roboguy` (~roboguy_@206.59.124.24.cm.sunflower.com) joined #forth 22:54:53 --- quit: rgrinberg (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 23:14:41 --- quit: roboguy` (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23:21:12 --- join: workp (~workp@host-92-25-126-252.as13285.net) joined #forth 23:25:32 --- quit: pdewacht (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 23:25:42 --- join: pdewacht (~repent@kulon.2k38.be) joined #forth 23:26:35 --- quit: workp (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 23:28:08 --- quit: proteus-guy (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 23:40:18 --- join: proteus-guy (~proteusgu@node-8b2.pool-180-180.dynamic.totbb.net) joined #forth 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/16.12.05