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Both are very compact, however 15:03:00 Zarutian: the trend of late is toward subroutine-threaded, (lists of calls), and DTC 15:03:44 I've seen one forth for the AVR that was ITC, I think 2 are DTC, and at least 2 more are call-threaded (subroutine-threaded) 15:04:26 I have done direct threaded code implementation 15:04:45 the idea is to have just a few primitives in the prom and have the rest in wram 15:04:54 hmm 15:05:31 and itc seems the only way to go about it, as I see it 15:05:41 yeah, ITC and pcode. 15:06:14 basically, you want to use nonexecutable "mass storage" to hold data (be data) and point back to your codespace 15:10:56 well, I am thinking of it as the routines in prom basically implementing a Forth cpu ontop of this one 15:10:56 the codeword in words in the dataspace would just point to the primitives. 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