00:00:00 --- log: started forth/16.06.23 00:41:04 --- quit: proteusguy (Quit: Leaving) 01:00:43 --- join: fiddlerwoaroof_ (~fiddlerwo@unaffiliated/fiddlerwoaroof) joined #forth 01:25:29 --- quit: mnemnia (Remote host closed the connection) 02:12:10 --- join: impomatic (~impomatic@54.39.114.87.dyn.plus.net) joined #forth 02:26:03 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-98-207-249-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 02:30:42 --- part: xyh left #forth 02:30:48 --- quit: mnemnion (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 03:28:25 --- join: true-grue (~true-grue@176.14.216.104) joined #forth 03:39:31 --- quit: nighty (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke) 03:42:27 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@2601:643:8103:f9d0:307a:f6c9:8780:91ab) joined #forth 03:45:52 --- join: xyh (~celtic-bo@111.50.69.121) joined #forth 03:46:49 --- part: xyh left #forth 03:46:59 --- quit: mnemnion (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 03:47:34 --- join: xyh (~celtic-bo@111.50.69.121) joined #forth 03:47:46 --- part: xyh left #forth 03:48:09 --- quit: wa5qjh (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 03:49:55 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@121.54.58.139) joined #forth 03:52:07 --- quit: wa5qjh (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03:53:34 are there any reason why Ficl do not have cmove and cmove>? 03:54:29 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@121.54.58.139) joined #forth 04:29:01 --- quit: wa5qjh (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 05:37:39 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@49.229.110.83) joined #forth 05:37:39 --- mode: ChanServ set +v proteusguy 05:54:27 --- join: vsg1990 (~vsg1990@pool-173-64-14-42.bflony.fios.verizon.net) joined #forth 05:59:34 Yes. 05:59:38 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@121.54.58.139) joined #forth 05:59:53 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 06:01:15 DGASAU: ? 06:01:57 DGASAU: can you elaborate? 06:03:21 Nobody cared. 06:04:04 --- join: nighty (~nighty@s229123.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) joined #forth 06:11:57 dram: you may think that FICL is meant for C programmers who want to use Forth. 06:12:02 This is wrong assumption. 06:13:33 That's why nobody actually wants "CMOVE" or "CMOVE>". 06:19:57 --- join: real-grue (~true-grue@176.14.216.104) joined #forth 06:21:39 It seems that modern Forth has nothing to do with C programmers who want to use Forth :) 06:23:05 For example, no sane C programmer will use ANS I/O libs. 06:23:13 --- quit: true-grue (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 06:24:26 They don't want to use these crazy number formatting words from Forth. Because they already have sprintf etc :) So they want to have a smaller and simpler language than Forth, with mappings to C std library. 06:25:49 It would be nice to have a standard for a Forth-like embeddable scripting language. Because this language has very little similarities with ANS94 Forth. 06:32:46 --- quit: wa5qjh (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 06:33:57 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@121.54.58.139) joined #forth 06:49:29 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@183.88.78.90) joined #forth 06:49:29 --- mode: ChanServ set +v proteusguy 06:52:25 But without CMOVE, how do I copy a string? 06:54:07 ( src dst n -) memcpy 06:54:08 :) 06:56:49 I think ficl do not have memcpy 07:02:48 --- quit: vsg1990 (Quit: Leaving) 07:25:08 --- quit: wa5qjh (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 07:28:14 --- quit: dram (Quit: dram) 08:11:41 --- quit: real-grue (Quit: Leaving) 08:12:00 --- join: true-grue (~true-grue@176.14.216.104) joined #forth 08:34:03 --- join: Kumool (~kumool@adsl-64-237-232-89.prtc.net) joined #forth 08:54:48 --- quit: true-grue (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08:59:23 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@2601:643:8103:f9d0:307a:f6c9:8780:91ab) joined #forth 09:03:44 --- quit: mnemnion (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 09:23:12 --- join: true-grue (~true-grue@176.14.216.104) joined #forth 09:37:27 --- join: beretta (~beretta@cpe-98-30-146-54.columbus.res.rr.com) joined #forth 10:18:42 --- join: karswell` (~user@31.185.131.182) joined #forth 10:24:18 --- nick: karswell` -> karswell 10:28:54 --- join: bedah (~bedah@dyndsl-091-248-075-229.ewe-ip-backbone.de) joined #forth 10:43:06 --- quit: karswell (Remote host closed the connection) 10:50:17 --- join: Zarutian (~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is) joined #forth 12:36:12 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@2601:643:8103:f9d0:307a:f6c9:8780:91ab) joined #forth 12:36:58 --- quit: mnemnion (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12:37:32 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@2601:643:8103:f9d0:307a:f6c9:8780:91ab) joined #forth 13:18:28 --- join: ASau (~user@netbsd/developers/asau) joined #forth 13:27:53 --- quit: Zarutian (*.net *.split) 13:27:54 --- quit: DGASAU (*.net *.split) 13:27:55 --- quit: Uniju_ (*.net *.split) 13:27:56 --- quit: dograt (*.net *.split) 13:27:57 --- quit: ovf (*.net *.split) 13:28:02 --- join: DGASAU (~user@lmpc.drb.insel.de) joined #forth 13:30:06 --- join: dograt (~dograt@unaffiliated/dograt) joined #forth 13:33:10 --- join: Uniju (~frog_styl@cpe-74-78-4-232.mass.res.rr.com) joined #forth 13:34:44 --- join: ovf (sid19068@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jxhlcyyhemoxfivx) joined #forth 13:54:35 --- quit: bedah (Quit: Ex-Chat) 14:41:47 --- join: Zarutian (~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is) joined #forth 15:07:41 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@121.54.58.139) joined #forth 15:09:45 --- quit: wa5qjh (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15:12:07 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@121.54.58.139) joined #forth 15:37:07 --- quit: true-grue (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15:52:45 --- quit: carc (Quit: QUIT) 15:55:33 --- join: carc (~carc@unaffiliated/carc) joined #forth 16:00:01 --- quit: nighty (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke) 16:00:26 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 16:28:40 --- quit: Kumool (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 16:34:25 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 16:45:17 --- join: karswell (~user@31.185.131.182) joined #forth 16:54:31 --- join: nighty (~nighty@d246113.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) joined #forth 17:02:56 --- join: saml_ (~saml@cpe-24-102-97-97.nyc.res.rr.com) joined #forth 17:20:51 --- quit: karswell (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 17:22:14 --- join: karswell (~user@31.185.131.182) joined #forth 17:23:23 --- quit: Zarutian (Quit: Zarutian) 17:29:54 --- join: Kumool (~kumool@adsl-64-237-233-89.prtc.net) joined #forth 18:11:18 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@2601:643:8103:f9d0:a8d8:99f0:8491:323d) joined #forth 18:15:48 --- quit: mnemnion (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 18:51:57 --- quit: Keshl (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 19:28:24 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@2601:643:8103:f9d0:2c8d:de5a:1c8:2499) joined #forth 19:53:24 --- quit: saml_ (Remote host closed the connection) 20:24:29 --- quit: joneshf-laptop (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 20:26:43 --- join: joneshf-laptop (~joneshf@c-73-220-86-28.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 22:18:58 --- quit: wa5qjh (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 22:35:45 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@121.54.58.139) joined #forth 23:35:19 --- join: true-grue (~true-grue@176.14.216.104) joined #forth 23:43:21 --- quit: impomatic (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 23:53:27 --- join: Keshl (~Purple@24.115.181.94.res-cmts.gld.ptd.net) joined #forth 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/16.06.23