00:00:00 --- log: started forth/16.04.19 00:00:22 yeah, sometimes it is more active than others 00:00:39 when it's dead, at least there is no drama, is the way I look at it 00:00:45 just got done dealing with more than my share tonight 00:01:00 I called someone out for being an ass, he /ignore'd me, then accused me of sending him unwanted PMs 00:01:11 LOL 00:01:36 really irritated me when he said that. he put my full user@host out there and everything 00:01:48 sick 00:02:15 I'm new to forth, but totally got addicted to it, so easy and so powerful, done some CGI with it already 00:02:50 nice 00:02:54 I haven't done CGI yet 00:03:26 in fact I have done very basic stuff only... a stopwatch program, a passphrase generator, and a few different ad hoc calculators 00:04:13 passphrase? like random chars of needed length? 00:10:19 yeah 00:10:32 actually it is based on bits of entropy 00:10:58 mind sharing code? 00:11:07 picks from a list of 16384 words, each one is 14 bits of entropy, also has the ability to add numbers to the end with the appropriate number of bits of entropy 00:11:19 I do plan to release it eventually but need to clean it up first 00:11:41 and also get formal copyright clearance as my wordlist is based on Diceware's 00:12:42 in addition to being ugly it's rather GNU Forth and GNU/Linux specific as written 00:16:21 ahhh, interesting) 00:16:32 GNU Forth? what's wrong about it? 00:24:15 --- quit: joneshf-laptop (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 00:47:10 --- quit: novaskell (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 00:54:13 --- quit: picobit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 01:00:01 --- quit: ASau (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 01:00:07 --- quit: Kumool (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02:59:45 --- quit: nighty (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke) 04:05:44 --- join: nighty (~nighty@s229123.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) joined #forth 04:31:07 any little how to on extremely simple "server"/"client" on forth? 04:33:14 How is it different to any other programming language? 04:34:00 (Except the fact that it sucks because Forth is a horrible shit with lack of abstractions and anything else.) 04:34:29 I'm interested in how I can/must use sockets etc 04:35:21 You can avoid using sockets by using inetd, netcat or similar solutions. 04:35:38 Just like you do that in any other programming language. 04:36:08 You can use sockets the same way you do that in C. 04:36:16 Except that you have to write FFI wrappers first. 04:37:36 thanks for ideas 04:39:15 When you stop playing with toys, compare how it is easier to write in saner programming languages. 04:42:50 my job doesn't relate to programming, so I do this just for fun and #I'mNotLikeEverybody 04:43:09 and yes I know how it works in Java for example in 5 lines ) 04:58:36 DGASAU: if you hate Forth so much why are you here? 05:09:28 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 05:15:48 --- join: true-grue (~true-grue@176.14.216.104) joined #forth 05:41:51 DocPlatypus: maybe he tries to fight Forth domination in modern world? :-D 05:53:42 if anything, we need more people using Forth, not fewer 05:54:45 yes, some things need improvement... but I know of plenty of people who call C an insane programming language. 05:55:06 yet, it's not going anywhere anytime soon 05:55:41 we need some glamorous Forthframework (based on over9000+ files and folders) that will autogenerate 150+ screens of code so hipsters can say wow! and start to web3.0 it :-D 05:55:49 and surely JavaScript based ;-) 05:56:18 personally I think a Forth variant would have made a better browser-side scripting language than LiveScript aka JavaScript 05:56:59 still frustrates me that Sun (at the time, long before Oracle bought them out) took Netscape's money to license the Java trademark and create confusion 05:58:28 main "problem" is how they use it (IMHO), I remember time than using JS was faster then reload page with new data... now... this time ended :-D 05:59:01 the problem as I see it, is that people quit checking what goes on when scripting isn't there 05:59:18 as in, they see scripting as a requirement... there are still some browsers which do not have it 05:59:56 this one true too 06:07:40 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@203.111.224.33) joined #forth 06:21:44 --- quit: wa5qjh (Remote host closed the connection) 06:26:01 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@203.111.224.33) joined #forth 06:28:07 --- quit: DocPlatypus (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 06:50:05 --- join: DocPlatypus (~skquinn@c-73-166-108-48.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) joined #forth 06:51:57 --- quit: nighty (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 07:01:48 --- quit: wa5qjh (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07:03:26 --- join: nighty (~nighty@s229123.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) joined #forth 07:36:23 btw, anybody used Forth on TI msp430 ? 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