00:00:00 --- log: started forth/16.03.23 01:49:24 --- quit: proteusguy_sat2 (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 02:40:05 probonono looks like I missed you today. way outa sync, hi hi I'm in philippines UTC +8 if that's any help. 03:07:35 --- quit: ASau (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 04:04:36 --- quit: wa5qjh (Quit: wa5qjh) 05:04:00 --- join: proteusguy_sat2 (~proteusgu@180.183.114.186) joined #forth 05:13:33 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 06:03:51 --- quit: impomatic (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06:07:26 --- quit: DGASAU (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 06:12:23 --- join: DGASAU (~user@lmpc.drb.insel.de) joined #forth 06:56:46 --- join: little_bit (~tomkl@unaffiliated/tomkl) joined #forth 07:08:57 --- quit: carc (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 07:09:24 --- quit: djinni (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 07:09:49 --- quit: cantstanya (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 07:10:15 --- quit: Riviera` (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 07:13:22 --- quit: Quozl`_ (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 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the purpose of many or most of those is a real hinderance. 21:02:08 my guess is that a lot of programmers resort to writing their own definitions for about the same reason there's so many C & C++ libraries. In Linux, BSD & windows, there are already many many libraries and I'd bet one heckuva lot of redundancies. rather defeats the idea of re-useability, I think. 21:03:21 ??? 21:03:44 k k k ... 21:04:27 ( no, that has nothing to do with the KKK ) 21:04:49 --- join: joneshf-laptop (~joneshf@c-73-220-86-28.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 21:08:10 --- join: eazarx86_64 (~eazar001@99-151-0-118.lightspeed.snrmca.sbcglobal.net) joined #forth 21:10:13 --- quit: eazar001 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 21:10:22 --- nick: eazarx86_64 -> eazar001 22:37:44 --- quit: eazar001 () 22:58:12 --- quit: nightspirit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 45.0.1/20160319124722]) 23:30:04 wa5qjh: the reason why you failed forth before is because the language makes no sense 23:30:20 You are basically managing the stack memory for your program 23:30:27 while trying to solve your programming problems 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/16.03.23