00:00:00 --- log: started forth/16.03.15 00:14:59 --- quit: pwnie (Quit: bye bye) 00:43:02 --- nick: xyh -> stone-hearted-ma 01:07:19 --- nick: stone-hearted-ma -> xyh 01:10:26 --- quit: ASau (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 02:48:54 --- join: malyn (~malyn@54.201.34.233) joined #forth 02:49:00 --- quit: malyn (Changing host) 02:49:00 --- join: malyn (~malyn@unaffiliated/malyn) joined #forth 03:03:20 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 04:16:23 --- join: true-grue (~true-grue@176.14.216.104) joined #forth 04:24:42 --- quit: xyh (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 45.0/20160308181531]) 04:25:27 --- join: xyh (~xieyuheng@111.50.70.142) joined #forth 04:50:12 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@14.207.12.34) joined #forth 04:50:12 --- mode: ChanServ set +v proteusguy 05:15:50 --- join: little_bit (~tomkl@unaffiliated/tomkl) joined #forth 05:51:50 --- quit: xyh (Remote host closed the connection) 06:00:08 --- join: xyh (~chatzilla@111.50.70.142) joined #forth 06:08:05 --- join: joneshf-laptop (~joneshf@c-73-220-86-28.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 06:21:36 --- quit: DGASAU (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 06:22:09 --- join: DGASAU (~user@lmpc.drb.insel.de) joined #forth 06:27:54 --- quit: joneshf-laptop (Quit: Leaving) 06:31:06 --- quit: DGASAU (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 06:35:34 --- join: DGASAU (~user@lmpc.drb.insel.de) joined #forth 06:47:08 --- join: joneshf-laptop (~joneshf@c-73-220-86-28.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 06:49:39 --- join: beretta (~beretta@cpe-65-185-42-203.columbus.res.rr.com) joined #forth 07:08:08 --- quit: joneshf-laptop (Remote host closed the connection) 08:03:24 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 08:18:33 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@14.207.12.34) joined #forth 08:18:33 --- mode: ChanServ set +v proteusguy 08:20:55 --- quit: rpcope (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 08:23:40 --- join: rpcope (~rpcope@162.245.217.4) joined #forth 08:28:54 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-73-223-96-148.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 09:21:56 --- join: Kumool (~kumool@adsl-72-50-84-78.prtc.net) joined #forth 11:17:38 --- join: Zarutian (~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is) joined #forth 12:47:36 --- join: karswell` (~user@173.89.125.91.dyn.plus.net) joined #forth 12:48:46 --- quit: karswell (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 12:50:34 --- join: mat4 (~Claude@ip5b40bd37.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) joined #forth 12:50:37 hello 12:57:00 hi mat4 12:57:56 --- quit: Kumool (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 13:07:31 --- join: Kumool (~kumool@adsl-72-50-84-78.prtc.net) joined #forth 13:15:34 hi regre 13:15:49 eh regreg 14:05:14 --- join: ASau (~user@netbsd/developers/asau) joined #forth 14:26:44 mat4: h'lo 14:26:59 hi Zarutian 14:27:49 mat4: would you say that AND, XOR, and 1LSHIFT is too minimalistic ALU for a dual stack machine? 14:29:14 no, it depends in my opinion on the architecture and what instruction effort do you tolerate as efficient 14:31:10 lets say it is basically the cannonical dual stack machine described in Stack Machines: The New wave only the ALU is as above 14:32:03 basically I want to keep gate count and propagation delay as low as possible. 14:34:38 the ALU will likely be a bottleneck then which can't be compensated even though higher clock frequencies 14:39:17 I meant overall gate count and propagation delay, not spefically only just ALU 14:48:22 because all functional units of such canonical stack design share a single (control and data) bus I doubt propagation delays are a limited factor compared to bus delays. If so, reducing the ALU beyond typical functionality like described for the WISC CPU/32 for example (which is basical such a design) 14:49:08 is of limited advantage (lesser logic count) 14:56:11 for example=as described in the book 14:56:36 * mat4 needs a better line editor 14:57:43 --- quit: Zarutian (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 14:59:41 --- quit: mat4 (Quit: Leaving) 15:46:25 --- quit: true-grue (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16:09:48 --- quit: Kumool (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 16:14:31 --- join: Kumool (~kumool@adsl-72-50-85-177.prtc.net) joined #forth 16:24:01 --- quit: xyh (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 16:26:53 --- quit: rpcope (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 16:29:50 --- join: rpcope (~rpcope@162.245.217.4) joined #forth 17:36:34 --- quit: pointfree (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 18:19:06 --- join: vsg1990 (~vsg1990@pool-74-110-57-203.bflony.fios.verizon.net) joined #forth 18:38:50 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 18:45:20 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-73-223-96-148.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 20:18:41 --- quit: carc (Quit: QUIT) 20:19:21 --- join: carc (~carc@unaffiliated/carc) joined #forth 20:29:27 --- join: MrMobius (~MrMobius@50.153.168.168) joined #forth 20:36:45 --- quit: proteusguy__ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20:54:00 --- join: proteusguy__ (~proteusgu@ppp-110-168-229-242.revip5.asianet.co.th) joined #forth 21:12:47 --- quit: vsg1990 (Quit: Leaving) 21:15:25 --- quit: MrMobius (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 21:35:02 --- quit: karswell` (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 21:46:27 --- quit: little_bit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 22:25:11 --- quit: beretta (Quit: Leaving) 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/16.03.15