00:00:00 --- log: started forth/15.11.12 00:04:13 --- quit: ASau (Remote host closed the connection) 00:04:32 --- join: ASau (~user@netbsd/developers/asau) joined #forth 00:52:21 --- join: nighty-_ (~nighty@s1015252.xgsspn.imtp.tachikawa.spmode.ne.jp) joined #forth 01:07:12 --- quit: ASau (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 01:32:55 --- join: true-grue (~grue@176.14.216.104) joined #forth 01:42:08 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01:47:09 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@180.183.138.178) joined #forth 01:47:09 --- mode: ChanServ set +v proteusguy 01:57:27 --- quit: asagk (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 02:00:48 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02:02:34 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@180.183.138.178) joined #forth 02:02:34 --- mode: ChanServ set +v proteusguy 02:10:12 --- join: asagk (~asagk@i59F6AD7A.versanet.de) joined #forth 02:18:47 --- quit: atommann (Quit: Leaving) 02:21:41 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 02:27:49 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@180.183.138.178) joined #forth 02:27:49 --- mode: ChanServ set +v proteusguy 02:49:05 --- quit: Bahman (Quit: ave atque val) 03:33:24 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 03:36:12 --- join: xyh (~cicada@183.37.3.134) joined #forth 04:00:55 --- quit: nighty-_ (Remote host closed the connection) 04:33:49 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@ppp-110-168-229-80.revip5.asianet.co.th) joined #forth 04:33:56 --- mode: ChanServ set +v proteusguy 04:49:44 --- quit: JohnMarkM (Quit: Leaving) 05:21:11 --- quit: xyh (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [SeaMonkey 2.39/20151111142545]) 05:48:07 --- join: xyh (~cicada@183.15.143.128) joined #forth 06:12:20 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@2601:400:c002:5300:1097:1785:e1fe:5a7b) joined #forth 06:14:39 --- quit: xyh (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 06:14:44 --- join: xyh_ (~cicada@183.11.179.239) joined #forth 06:14:52 --- nick: xyh_ -> xyh 06:27:40 --- join: proteusguy__ (~proteusgu@ppp-110-168-230-248.revip5.asianet.co.th) joined #forth 06:29:10 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 06:29:42 --- quit: proteusguy_ (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 06:40:58 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@ppp-110-168-230-248.revip5.asianet.co.th) joined #forth 06:40:58 --- mode: ChanServ set +v proteusguy 06:42:25 --- quit: mnemnion (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06:43:01 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-68-37-169-152.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined #forth 06:46:45 --- quit: xyh (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 06:58:06 --- quit: beretta (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 07:10:47 --- join: beretta (~beretta@cpe-65-185-42-203.columbus.res.rr.com) joined #forth 07:12:06 --- join: xyh (~cicada@183.37.3.134) joined #forth 07:58:02 --- quit: irsol (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 08:00:06 --- join: irsol (~irsol@unaffiliated/contempt) joined #forth 08:26:37 --- quit: xyh (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 08:29:51 --- join: xyh (~cicada@183.37.3.134) joined #forth 08:29:56 --- quit: xyh (Client Quit) 08:30:15 --- join: xyh (~cicada@183.37.3.134) joined #forth 09:01:25 --- join: artist3 (6c07ef0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.7.239.13) joined #forth 09:02:13 Did the late Mr. Fox ever share the 4os? is there any hope a desktop pc running 4os and letting mesurf the internet with 1% the code? 09:12:02 No. 09:17:01 ... 09:18:00 DGASAU: do you even know who is Mr.Fox ? 09:18:12 Yes. 09:18:21 who is he? 09:19:00 That "evangelist" who has written a lot of bullshit and very little of public code. 09:20:15 artist3: Mr DGASAU is an anti-forth :) 09:22:23 artist3: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.lang.forth/I3BglDBLnDQ 09:52:07 --- join: fantazo (~fantazo@089144199027.atnat0008.highway.a1.net) joined #forth 10:04:36 --- join: xyh` (~xieyuheng@183.37.3.134) joined #forth 10:04:43 --- nick: xyh` -> xyw 10:08:22 --- quit: xyw (Remote host closed the connection) 11:01:40 --- quit: fantazo (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 11:13:38 --- join: fantazo (~fantazo@089144193129.atnat0002.highway.a1.net) joined #forth 11:17:12 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 11:34:06 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@2601:400:c002:5300:dd6f:d53c:cdc3:680f) joined #forth 11:46:39 --- quit: mnemnion (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11:47:13 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@2601:400:c002:5300:dd6f:d53c:cdc3:680f) joined #forth 12:21:00 hm 12:21:11 seems forth can do a lot if given chance 12:21:27 I see so much ruin in supporting linux servers and aws 12:21:34 no efficiency 12:22:29 that's just plain computing. a fat lie since it's inception 12:23:18 as long as people stack bricks on bricks to build houses which weren't designed. it will collaps. 12:34:23 --- quit: fantazo (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 12:36:01 I ama amazed more disasters don't happen. 12:36:50 :D like SQL injection. 12:51:24 --- join: Zarutian (~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is) joined #forth 12:57:16 --- quit: dys (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 12:59:34 --- quit: xyh (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [SeaMonkey 2.39/20151111142545]) 13:14:19 vmware, appdynamics, oracle, postgresql, hornetq 13:14:27 zomg such gigs of code 13:14:29 n binaries 13:14:35 charles moore would puke 13:14:43 no one writes millions of line sof code 13:14:54 1 meg cna be 10k code and 990k data 13:14:59 10,000 lines of code 13:15:10 more data less code 13:15:19 1 meg can be 10k code and 990k data 13:15:25 less useless code 13:15:27 we have terabytes of files 13:15:47 and SAN and the san is like hard to tuns since things mounted all around no one knows or has list where 13:16:01 > charles moore would puke <-- well, it's not like he's dead. 13:16:13 I mean if he saw this at my work 13:16:17 not that hes dead 13:16:24 oh 13:16:33 fair enough 13:16:38 I wonder what its like debugging working forth code 13:16:49 like stuff 1000s of users are hitting 13:18:57 artist3: like on the production machine its is running on or just on a developement vm? 13:19:04 --- quit: karswell (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13:19:16 either 13:20:24 --- join: karswell (~user@121.212.208.46.dyn.plus.net) joined #forth 13:20:37 artist3: well I assume debugging on production is like smoking in an fireworks warehouse: done very carefully 13:21:38 lol 13:30:32 --- quit: bb010g (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) 13:34:08 --- join: Mat4 (~claude@ip5b40a018.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) joined #forth 13:34:17 hello 13:39:13 h'lo Mat4 13:39:23 hi Zarutian 13:40:05 do you know a good machine-code debugger for ARM (v7h) ? 13:42:04 nope, I usually use gdb on such architectures that are more 'powerfull'. 13:42:14 heard that IDA might help 13:42:52 thanks, I will take a look at IDA 13:43:04 you dont need anything on the level of a JTAG hardware debugger? 13:44:09 not yet 13:47:22 --- quit: Mat4 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13:48:08 --- join: Mat4 (~claude@ip5b40a018.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) joined #forth 14:02:12 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 14:21:22 --- quit: true-grue (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14:28:52 --- quit: Mat4 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 14:56:04 zomg I wish I was forth programmer not linux cloud devops 14:56:10 I want to code a solution 14:56:15 not deal in all this junk 14:56:30 --- quit: artist3 (Quit: Page closed) 15:17:00 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-68-40-49-135.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined #forth 15:25:29 --- quit: Zarutian (Quit: Zarutian) 15:45:23 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 15:51:41 --- join: ASau (~user@netbsd/developers/asau) joined #forth 15:52:31 --- quit: carc (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 15:56:08 --- join: carc (~carc@unaffiliated/carc) joined #forth 16:04:23 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@2601:400:8000:3da0:ad55:43f2:9362:df1b) joined #forth 16:08:37 --- quit: mnemnion (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16:55:26 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-68-40-49-135.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined #forth 17:19:00 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 17:19:40 --- quit: Duality (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 17:21:21 --- join: Duality (~duality@tkkrlab.space) joined #forth 17:22:35 --- join: xyh (~cicada@183.37.3.237) joined #forth 17:41:00 --- join: atommann (~atommann@210.3.149.230) joined #forth 17:51:12 --- join: xyh_ (~cicada@183.37.28.126) joined #forth 17:51:52 --- quit: xyh (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 17:52:01 --- nick: xyh_ -> xyh 17:57:18 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-68-40-49-135.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined #forth 17:57:57 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 18:00:42 --- quit: xyh (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [SeaMonkey 2.39/20151111142545]) 18:02:22 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-68-40-49-135.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined #forth 18:14:35 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 18:24:55 --- join: xyh (~cicada@183.11.179.239) joined #forth 18:33:20 --- quit: tangentstorm (Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3) 18:34:16 --- join: tangentstorm (michal@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fec8:caab) joined #forth 18:34:21 --- quit: xyh (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18:34:37 --- join: xyh (~cicada@183.11.179.239) joined #forth 18:37:24 --- quit: newcup (*.net *.split) 18:43:08 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-68-40-49-135.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined #forth 19:51:55 --- quit: xyh (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [SeaMonkey 2.39/20151111142545]) 20:29:17 --- quit: atommann (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20:41:44 --- join: karswell` (~user@121.212.208.46.dyn.plus.net) joined #forth 20:41:56 --- quit: karswell (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20:49:59 --- join: ASau` (~user@176.5.136.221) joined #forth 20:53:17 --- quit: ASau (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21:03:38 --- join: atommann (~atommann@210.3.149.230) joined #forth 21:14:30 --- join: xyh (~cicada@14.127.26.171) joined #forth 21:18:02 --- join: bb010g (uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ifhdlxsompvksljm) joined #forth 21:25:19 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 22:29:09 --- quit: proteusguy (Remote host closed the connection) 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/15.11.12