00:00:00 --- log: started forth/15.11.06 00:04:10 ...Got it. What the *freak*? I really have no idea where it manages to store some of the data it does, but fooling both the interpreter and the program being run into re-initializing gets it to work. Yep. 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11:35:31 * there 11:37:48 --- nick: Keshl_ -> Keshl 11:41:01 really it doesn't matter that much. forth standards should be redone anyway. 11:41:26 normally they aren't that good either, like the hyperspec of common lisp total rubbish 11:44:04 I do not think languages like forth or scheme will ever be well standarded. 11:45:23 but standard is one form of doc anyway ~ 11:49:03 the ans forth standard freezes stuff like blocks right into the language 11:50:19 I'm reading at the moment some alan kay and when comparing that to chuck moore that is a high contrast. and both are for simplicity 11:50:58 surface simplicity vs infrastructure simplicity 11:51:41 chuck always considers efficiency into his considerations. whereas Alan Kay considers more formal simplicity and generality into his considerations. 11:51:55 --- join: maroni (~maroni@77.119.131.60.wireless.dyn.drei.com) joined #forth 11:53:30 Chuck would probably look at you strange if you say that it doesn't matter to utilize a cluster fully with a mundane question just to have a good looking video graphics. 11:54:01 --- join: MickyW (~MickyW@p4FE8C014.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 11:54:39 whoever thinks that overlapping windows are generally a good idea? 11:54:51 normally they are a pain 11:55:58 fantazo: the blue book of smalltalk ? 11:56:22 xyh, hmm? never read that one. I think. 11:59:13 what are you reading then :) 12:01:25 I watched a couple of Alan Kay talks and skimmed his "The early history of Smalltalk" essay 12:05:39 what I find funny is that Alan Kay was/is working on a way to implement basically what a today computer does in 20K of code. but then I look at the language "COLA" they use for testing their schemes and that has way more than that, iirc 12:24:17 --- quit: Keshl (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 12:46:34 --- join: Keshl (~Purple@24.115.181.94.res-cmts.gld.ptd.net) joined #forth 12:54:11 --- quit: maroni (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 13:22:45 --- quit: xyh (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 13:42:48 --- quit: MickyW (Quit: Verlassend/leaving) 14:42:27 --- quit: true-grue (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14:42:37 --- quit: armour (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 14:59:15 --- quit: bedah (Quit: Ex-Chat) 15:00:04 --- join: ASau (~user@netbsd/developers/asau) joined #forth 16:25:13 --- quit: john_metcalf (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 17:08:09 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 17:17:16 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@2601:400:8000:3da0:99c0:137b:bde8:8c38) joined #forth 17:23:45 --- quit: fantazo (Quit: Verlassend) 17:26:07 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 17:32:45 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@2601:400:8000:3da0:99c0:137b:bde8:8c38) joined #forth 17:34:31 --- quit: Quozl` (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 17:44:55 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 17:50:02 --- join: baxtr (~rbauer@cpe-65-188-201-97.triad.res.rr.com) joined #forth 17:50:51 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@2601:400:8000:3da0:99c0:137b:bde8:8c38) joined #forth 17:55:45 --- join: mnemnia (~mnemnion@c-68-40-49-135.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined #forth 17:57:01 --- quit: mnemnion (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 17:59:42 --- quit: mnemnia (Remote host closed the connection) 18:10:30 --- quit: bb010g (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) 18:18:21 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-68-40-49-135.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined #forth 18:38:18 --- join: rude_scholar (~rude_scho@184.21.36.46) joined #forth 18:41:44 --- quit: Zarutian (Quit: Zarutian) 18:53:04 xyh: I'll fix the standards link 18:58:13 --- mode: ChanServ set +v crc 18:58:55 --- mode: ChanServ set +o crc 18:59:07 --- topic: set to 'Forth Programming | logged by clog at http://bit.ly/91toWN | http://projects.forthworks.com/standards/DPANS/ | www.greenarraychips.com' by crc 19:17:08 --- quit: rude_scholar (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19:43:47 --- quit: baxtr (Quit: Leaving) 20:04:37 --- join: Bahman (~Bahman@5.238.138.241) joined #forth 21:52:54 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 22:09:22 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@2601:400:8000:3da0:418:50c4:f623:4920) joined #forth 23:15:19 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/15.11.06