00:00:00 --- log: started forth/15.11.02 00:26:30 --- join: tankfeeder (~kuku@46.109.189.240) joined #forth 00:28:19 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@180.183.127.78) joined #forth 00:28:20 --- mode: ChanServ set +v proteusguy 01:04:43 --- quit: ASau (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 01:56:01 --- quit: asagk (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02:08:53 --- join: asagk (~asagk@i59F6D5D7.versanet.de) joined #forth 02:14:47 --- quit: atommann (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 02:16:08 --- join: atommann (~atommann@210.3.149.230) joined #forth 02:20:51 --- quit: atommann (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 03:08:21 --- quit: proteusguy (Remote host closed the connection) 04:30:25 --- join: xyh (~xyh@14.20.6.192) joined #forth 04:33:39 --- quit: xyh (Remote host closed the connection) 06:01:57 --- quit: X-Scale (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 06:07:20 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@2601:400:8000:3da0:2139:3695:fefd:10d4) joined #forth 06:10:41 --- quit: Frek (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 06:10:48 --- join: Frek (~fredrik@traktor.sonixwave.com) joined #forth 06:37:19 --- join: true-grue (~grue@176.14.218.33) joined #forth 06:39:48 --- join: JohnEarnest (~rodgerthe@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined #forth 07:10:58 --- quit: mnemnion (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07:11:41 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@2601:400:8000:3da0:2139:3695:fefd:10d4) joined #forth 07:33:41 --- join: dzho_ (~dzho@unaffiliated/dzho) joined #forth 07:34:43 --- join: C_Keen (cckeen@pestilenz.org) joined #forth 07:35:41 --- quit: kulp (*.net *.split) 07:35:42 --- quit: ggherdov` (*.net *.split) 07:35:43 --- quit: dzho (*.net *.split) 07:35:44 --- quit: C-Keen (*.net *.split) 07:49:14 --- join: ggherdov` (sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gxjjadulceyfmahu) joined #forth 08:01:39 --- join: xyh (~xyh@183.39.239.173) joined #forth 08:08:44 --- join: kulp (kulp@unaffiliated/kulp) joined #forth 08:17:05 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@ppp-110-168-229-189.revip5.asianet.co.th) joined #forth 08:17:05 --- mode: ChanServ set +v proteusguy 08:43:42 --- nick: dzho_ -> dzho 08:45:24 --- join: proteusguy_satri (~proteusgu@ppp-110-168-229-110.revip5.asianet.co.th) joined #forth 08:46:32 --- quit: proteusguy_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 08:47:40 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 09:03:39 --- join: proteusguy_ (~proteusgu@ppp-110-168-229-110.revip5.asianet.co.th) joined #forth 09:11:14 --- quit: djinni (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10:02:45 --- join: MickyW (~MickyW@p57A2F24F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 10:19:32 --- quit: MickyW (Quit: Verlassend/leaving) 10:24:37 --- quit: true-grue (Remote host closed the connection) 10:44:53 --- join: bedah (~bedah@dyndsl-037-138-062-209.ewe-ip-backbone.de) joined #forth 10:49:33 --- join: MickyW (~MickyW@p57A2F24F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 10:59:05 --- join: true-grue (~grue@176.14.216.104) joined #forth 11:01:41 --- join: true-grue_ (~grue@176.14.216.104) joined #forth 11:04:22 --- quit: true-grue (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 11:23:05 --- join: true-grue (~grue@176.14.216.104) joined #forth 11:23:39 --- quit: true-grue (Remote host closed the connection) 11:25:31 --- quit: true-grue_ (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 11:26:35 --- join: fantazo (~fantazo@089144197072.atnat0006.highway.a1.net) joined #forth 11:36:29 --- join: X-Scale (~gbabios@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:e557:4d59:8d7b) joined #forth 11:48:50 --- quit: tankfeeder (Quit: Leaving) 11:55:34 --- join: ASau (~user@netbsd/developers/asau) joined #forth 11:57:42 --- join: impomatic (~impomatic@150.238.208.46.dyn.plus.net) joined #forth 12:29:09 --- quit: fantazo (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 12:30:35 --- join: true-grue (~grue@176.14.216.104) joined #forth 12:31:53 --- quit: MickyW (Quit: Verlassend/leaving) 12:40:21 --- quit: xyh (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 13:00:43 --- join: MickyW (~MickyW@p57A2F24F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 13:02:43 --- quit: MickyW (Client Quit) 13:14:19 --- join: true-grue_ (~grue@176.14.216.104) joined #forth 13:17:34 --- quit: true-grue (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 13:42:10 --- join: Zarutian (~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is) joined #forth 13:49:42 --- join: djinni (~djinni@105.ip-167-114-152.net) joined #forth 13:51:37 "go Forth and *" 13:51:57 * Keshl hugs. o_o 13:52:14 Zarutian: Did you see the Forth version of If You're Happy? o_o? 14:37:40 --- quit: true-grue_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14:48:25 forth you love if honk 14:58:34 Don'cha mean "forth if honk then", oωo? 14:59:02 Also, "me @ "Emotional-wellbeing" getprop "happy" stringcmp not if clap clap then". Obviously won't work for everyone, but it does for me, at least. <ω<' 14:59:28 --- quit: mnemnion (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15:00:12 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@2601:400:8000:3da0:2139:3695:fefd:10d4) joined #forth 15:09:06 --- quit: Zarutian (Quit: Zarutian) 15:44:57 --- quit: bedah (Quit: Ex-Chat) 16:08:13 I wonder if our widespread infix mindset is just a cultural artifact or something more fundamental. 16:08:47 most people learn mathematical notation before a programming language 16:09:10 written mathematical notation uses infix because it makes performing algebra easier 16:10:01 postfix is simpler for computers but by and large people are not very adventurous in programming language syntax and quick to declare the unfamiliar "unreadable" 16:10:10 see also: APL 16:39:39 --- quit: dys (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 16:42:54 X-Scale: infix is fundamental. 17:00:29 --- join: dys (~dys@ip-109-44-113-229.web.vodafone.de) joined #forth 17:03:31 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 17:10:37 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@2601:400:8000:3da0:2139:3695:fefd:10d4) joined #forth 17:32:01 Thanks, JohnEarnest 17:59:08 --- quit: ASau (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 18:05:22 --- quit: TodPunk (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18:05:44 --- join: TodPunk (Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined #forth 18:27:48 --- quit: sunnymilk (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 19:14:48 --- join: atommann (~atommann@210.3.149.230) joined #forth 19:48:16 --- join: Bahman (~Bahman@5.238.160.4) joined #forth 20:02:13 --- quit: Bahman (Quit: Ave atque vale) 20:22:15 --- join: Bahman (~Bahman@5.238.160.4) joined #forth 20:40:51 The way I see it, infix is RPL. 20:41:34 In my experience, humans can only add or subtract by "1", and just do that over and over to one digit at a time. There's ways to speed it up (Such as +/-1 on the 2nd digit for adding or subtracting by 10), but in the end, that's all it is. 20:41:58 So, "4 + 9" is like Forth for "Start with 4, and do '+' 9 times". 20:42:40 Seriously, slow down and read your own head. Try to do "4 + 9", and "4 9 +". Remember each item from left to right before doing any operations. See which's easier, oωo. 20:52:32 --- quit: JohnEarnest (Quit: JohnEarnest) 21:19:34 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 23:13:30 --- quit: Bahman (Quit: Ave atque vale) 23:21:31 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@2601:400:8000:3da0:2139:3695:fefd:10d4) joined #forth 23:26:21 --- quit: mnemnion (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 23:43:12 --- join: tankfeeder (~kuku@46.109.189.240) joined #forth 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/15.11.02