00:00:00 --- log: started forth/15.09.08 00:00:10 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@ppp-110-168-229-254.revip5.asianet.co.th) joined #forth 00:00:10 --- mode: ChanServ set +v proteusguy 00:16:49 --- quit: ASau (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 00:49:54 --- join: Bahman (~Bahman@46.62.146.193) joined #forth 01:16:34 --- quit: xyh (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 02:15:15 --- join: impomatic_ (~digital_w@81.174.207.110) joined #forth 02:33:44 --- quit: atommann (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 02:35:44 --- join: atommann (~atommann@210.3.149.230) joined #forth 02:43:11 --- join: nighty-_ (~nighty@hokuriku.rural-networks.com) joined #forth 02:52:28 --- quit: atommann (Quit: Leaving) 02:56:07 --- join: Zarutian (~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is) joined #forth 03:01:55 --- quit: Bahman (Quit: Ave atque vale) 03:24:17 --- join: xyh (~xyh@183.16.150.49) joined #forth 03:37:38 --- quit: Zarutian (Quit: Zarutian) 03:41:53 --- quit: xyh (Remote host closed the connection) 04:32:22 --- quit: asagk (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 04:45:23 --- join: asagk (~asagk@i59F6C1BD.versanet.de) joined #forth 05:30:20 --- quit: impomatic_ (Quit: impomatic_) 05:53:18 --- join: proteusguy_satri (~proteusgu@ppp-110-168-230-151.revip5.asianet.co.th) joined #forth 05:55:22 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 05:55:38 --- quit: proteusguy__ (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 06:12:55 --- join: proteusguy__ (~proteusgu@ppp-110-168-230-151.revip5.asianet.co.th) joined #forth 06:41:20 --- join: kumul (~mool@adsl-64-237-236-217.prtc.net) joined #forth 06:42:29 --- join: kumool (~mool@adsl-64-237-237-66.prtc.net) joined #forth 06:45:56 --- quit: kumul (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 07:18:18 --- join: xyh (~xyh@183.16.5.37) joined #forth 07:38:33 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-68-40-58-223.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined #forth 07:43:14 --- quit: xyh (Remote host closed the connection) 08:48:00 --- join: Mat4 (~claude@ip5b40b95e.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) joined #forth 08:48:14 hello 09:08:55 moin 09:12:47 --- quit: darkf (Quit: Leaving) 09:38:06 --- join: fantazo (~fantazo@089144192120.atnat0001.highway.a1.net) joined #forth 09:44:25 --- quit: kumool (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 09:49:44 --- join: xyh (~xyh@183.16.5.37) joined #forth 09:56:05 --- join: _spt_ (~jaat@host-92-30-227-179.as13285.net) joined #forth 09:56:05 --- quit: _spt_ (Changing host) 09:56:05 --- join: _spt_ (~jaat@unaffiliated/-spt-/x-5624824) joined #forth 10:01:39 --- join: kumool (~mool@adsl-64-237-237-66.prtc.net) joined #forth 10:02:42 proteusguy: OMG You were right about Haskell and Forth. Have You seen [[https://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~wl/icprojects/papers/reduceron08.pdf][Reduceron]]? 10:06:04 --- quit: kumool (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10:07:44 --- join: kumool (~mool@adsl-64-237-237-66.prtc.net) joined #forth 10:15:33 <_spt_> evening 10:16:18 Greetings every one. 10:24:07 DKordic: These StrangeCPU concept is very interesting 10:26:04 it remind me of an older VM design where I experimented with shared immediate areas for code sequences 10:26:57 this concept had also multiple program and data counters 10:29:54 --- quit: fantazo (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 10:30:04 --- quit: xyh (Remote host closed the connection) 10:32:25 ... your link seem to be dead 10:40:28 Mat4: I guess brackets interfered with Your IRC client. Try again with this https://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~wl/icprojects/papers/reduceron08.pdf 10:42:12 thanks 10:46:16 I don't know why, most new publications about novel processor designs I've read recently remind me in some aspects .. of lisp machines 10:55:08 Mat4: What document most clearly describes Lisp Machines in Your opinion? Every thing I found so far is concerned more with their history than concepts. Did You had one? AFAIK Forth Chips are older than ``Lisp Machines'', right? 11:02:26 There was once a large company selled the microstation, which was in fact a workstation based upon a special purpose CPU which original was developed for a Lisp dialect. The main usage of these system was deposit medelling 11:03:13 --- join: fantazo (~fantazo@089144214207.atnat0023.highway.a1.net) joined #forth 11:03:20 sorry modelling 11:05:37 please note that these machine is not related to the CAD software from bentley systems 11:09:00 in some respect (ISA support for garbage collection) these CPU shares some similarities with the reduceron as I can see 11:11:13 however these Lisp CPU allowed reconfigurable microcode (take a look at the PERQ CPU) 11:18:29 so I think the documentation for the PERQ is a good start 11:18:38 (thinking as written) 11:19:46 --- join: Zarutian (~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is) joined #forth 11:20:22 http://www.textfiles.com/bitsavers/pdf/perq/ 11:20:24 --- quit: Zarutian (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11:20:41 --- join: Zarutian (~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is) joined #forth 11:22:13 look at PERQ_CPU_Tech_Ref.pdf 11:24:39 I think you will find in addition the documentation of Spice Lisp somewhere in the net 11:26:54 eh, nice the Reduceron paper itself reference to a Lisp CPU: 11:27:00 Scheevel, M. (1986) NORMA: A graph reduction processor. In Proceedings of the 1986 11:27:02 Conference on LISP and Functional Programming. New York: ACM, pp. 212–219. 11:31:16 however, I think it would be hard to find any ISA documentation 11:44:23 sorry for the somewhat confuse posting, working beside chatting 11:53:01 Mat4: Thank You. 11:53:13 --- quit: fantazo (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 12:19:14 <_spt_> redefine in the ACEs ROM : http://www.jupiter-ace.co.uk/romlisting.html#L13EF 12:19:25 <_spt_> sorry wrong window !! 13:42:38 ACE is never OT here ;-) 13:45:26 --- join: ASau (~user@176.0.116.100) joined #forth 13:56:18 --- quit: djinni (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 13:57:01 --- join: djinni (~djinni@2607:5300:100:200::160d) joined #forth 14:20:48 --- quit: Keshl (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 14:32:27 --- join: PoppaVic (~pops@unaffiliated/poppavic) joined #forth 14:37:54 it would be nice to see a conversion of the ACE Forth to AMD64 from the ROM disassembly (using SDL) 14:42:43 --- join: Keshl (~Purple@24.115.181.94.res-cmts.gld.ptd.net) joined #forth 14:50:33 --- quit: yiyus (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 14:55:29 --- quit: Mat4 (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 15:14:11 --- part: PoppaVic left #forth 15:18:03 --- quit: proteusguy__ (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 15:18:09 --- quit: proteusguy_satri (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 15:23:14 --- quit: DKordic (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 15:26:12 --- join: kumul (~mool@adsl-64-237-237-217.prtc.net) joined #forth 15:29:26 --- quit: kumul (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15:29:29 --- quit: kumool (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 15:30:05 --- join: kumul (~mool@adsl-64-237-237-217.prtc.net) joined #forth 15:31:01 --- join: proteusguy_satri (~proteusgu@ppp-110-168-229-176.revip5.asianet.co.th) joined #forth 15:31:39 --- join: proteusguy__ (~proteusgu@ppp-110-168-229-176.revip5.asianet.co.th) joined #forth 15:37:28 --- quit: Zarutian (Quit: Zarutian) 16:02:57 --- quit: tangentstorm (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 16:20:11 --- quit: _spt_ (Quit: /0\) 16:20:30 --- join: tangentstorm (~michal@66-169-114-213.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) joined #forth 16:20:43 --- join: mark4 (~mark4@cpe-97-99-38-29.tx.res.rr.com) joined #forth 16:21:59 --- join: dys (~dys@ip-109-41-72-69.web.vodafone.de) joined #forth 16:37:15 --- quit: dys (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16:37:46 --- join: dys (~dys@ip-109-41-72-69.web.vodafone.de) joined #forth 16:54:41 --- quit: mark4 (Quit: Leaving) 17:00:47 --- quit: dys (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17:01:09 --- join: dys (~dys@ip-109-41-72-69.web.vodafone.de) joined #forth 17:05:19 --- quit: nighty-_ (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke) 17:06:39 --- join: yiyus (~124271242@je.je.je) joined #forth 17:49:11 --- quit: carc (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 17:55:01 --- join: carc (~carc@unaffiliated/carc) joined #forth 18:35:38 --- quit: dys (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 18:41:21 --- join: dys (~dys@ip-109-41-72-69.web.vodafone.de) joined #forth 19:21:28 --- join: atommann (~atommann@210.3.149.230) joined #forth 19:50:36 --- join: darkf (~darkf___@unaffiliated/darkf) joined #forth 20:27:33 --- quit: kumul (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 21:17:44 --- join: gabriel_laddel (~user@unaffiliated/gabriel-laddel/x-9909917) joined #forth 22:01:44 --- join: ASau` (~user@176.0.15.43) joined #forth 22:05:19 --- quit: ASau (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 22:05:55 --- quit: Keshl (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 22:26:26 --- join: kumul (~mool@adsl-64-237-237-217.prtc.net) joined #forth 22:38:02 --- join: xyh (~xyh@183.16.5.37) joined #forth 22:48:30 --- quit: kumul (Quit: Leaving) 23:21:45 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 23:28:13 --- join: tankfeeder (~Mike@193.178.177.61) joined #forth 23:43:09 --- quit: xyh (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/15.09.08