00:00:00 --- log: started forth/15.07.21 00:27:16 --- join: nighty-_ (~nighty@hokuriku.rural-networks.com) joined #forth 01:11:09 --- join: true-grue (~grue@95-27-131-89.broadband.corbina.ru) joined #forth 01:17:38 --- join: DocPlatypus (~skquinn@c-73-166-109-75.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) joined #forth 01:23:01 --- quit: DocPlatypus (Quit: Leaving) 01:34:28 --- quit: atommann (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 02:22:19 --- quit: ASau (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 02:27:41 --- join: fantazo (~fantazo@089144202079.atnat0011.highway.a1.net) joined #forth 02:53:24 --- join: atommann (~atommann@58.251.2.94) joined #forth 03:00:05 --- quit: atommann (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 03:20:13 --- join: atommann (~atommann@58.251.2.94) joined #forth 03:23:31 --- quit: fantazo (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 03:27:44 --- quit: atommann (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04:09:25 --- join: vsg1990 (~vsg1990@cpe-67-241-148-119.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined #forth 05:32:58 --- join: xyh (~user@14.150.214.241) joined #forth 06:49:52 --- quit: true-grue (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07:13:57 --- quit: xyh (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07:15:10 --- join: xyh (~user@14.150.214.241) joined #forth 07:34:23 --- join: vsg1990_ (~vsg1990@cpe-67-241-148-119.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined #forth 07:37:25 --- quit: vsg1990 (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 07:48:31 --- quit: darkf (Quit: Leaving) 07:49:38 --- quit: xyh (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07:49:56 --- join: xyh (~user@14.150.214.241) joined #forth 08:12:09 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 08:27:10 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@ppp-110-168-230-85.revip5.asianet.co.th) joined #forth 08:27:11 --- mode: ChanServ set +v proteusguy 08:48:19 --- nick: vsg1990_ -> vsg1990 09:14:39 --- join: true-grue (~grue@95-27-157-168.broadband.corbina.ru) joined #forth 09:48:33 --- quit: xyh (Remote host closed the connection) 10:12:11 --- join: xyh (~user@14.150.214.241) joined #forth 10:22:35 --- join: bedah (~bedah@dyndsl-091-096-197-254.ewe-ip-backbone.de) joined #forth 10:50:43 --- quit: xyh (Remote host closed the connection) 10:51:08 --- join: fantazo (~fantazo@089144225203.atnat0034.highway.a1.net) joined #forth 11:05:05 --- quit: MrMobius (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 11:07:37 --- join: MrMobius (~Joey@c-68-45-16-225.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined #forth 11:26:12 --- join: xyh (~user@14.150.214.241) joined #forth 11:33:20 --- join: Mat4 (~claude@ip5b409f39.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) joined #forth 11:33:23 hello 11:40:28 hey Mat4 11:41:19 hi bluekelp 11:42:07 --- join: _spt_ (~jaat@host-2-97-61-31.as13285.net) joined #forth 11:42:07 --- quit: _spt_ (Changing host) 11:42:07 --- join: _spt_ (~jaat@unaffiliated/-spt-/x-5624824) joined #forth 11:45:17 i wish i were playing with forth - instead i'm trying to find a way to reduce our build time from almost 30 minutes to something that doesn't make me want to rip my face off 11:45:49 Java? 11:47:21 I've ported my SDL based C code for emulating a character-display processor to assembler last day 11:47:22 yes. but that is only 10 minutes of it (tests - so really not J's fault - it's all the external systems/dbs, etc.) 11:47:42 node.js (npm - their package manager) and building our own internal apps is the other biggie 11:47:58 SDL the game/input library? 11:48:02 yes 11:48:06 cool! 11:48:40 now I can start working on an editor for my colorforth variant 11:49:49 to your time problem: I think reducing build times with such dependencies is not an easy task 11:51:28 hopefully we can at least split things into a few tasks (and skip some for dev builds, etc.) 11:51:59 like the node stuff. i might also poke around and stub out some systems for tests - reserving full/real tests for daily instead of every build 11:52:37 i still need to find my bug in the jones port to intel syntax. i had the idea to do a binary output diff and look for different opcodes - but haven't had time to see how far off they are 11:53:22 once i have that i'll have an 80% working bare metal forth - so i can (finally) play with poking the hardware and messing with usb/pci busses - which is what i wanted to do in the first place ;) 11:55:40 Soni, single stack forth sounds like a register machine and C. I don't really see the point. 11:56:21 proteusguy, as I said mostly just for fun 11:56:46 Soni, you have more free time than I. ;) 11:56:59 true 12:03:08 bluekelp: Please take a look again at: https://sites.google.com/site/forthoperatingsystem/; The sources include some routines for USB handling 12:03:38 hi proteusguy and Soni 12:10:06 --- join: spt_1 (~jaat@host-89-242-33-23.as13285.net) joined #forth 12:12:04 --- quit: _spt_ (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 12:17:10 good evening. 12:50:16 --- quit: xyh (Remote host closed the connection) 12:52:30 --- quit: fantazo (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 12:57:56 --- quit: vsg1990 (Quit: Leaving) 13:05:21 Mat4: thanks. i've seen a few but haven't been able to get any of them to boot 13:05:24 i'll try this one 13:08:42 on my system it boots 13:10:17 dependent on your firmware you need to enable a CSM for legacy BIOS emulation 13:50:25 --- quit: bedah (Remote host closed the connection) 13:50:32 --- quit: spt_1 (Quit: gone to fix a server for Staffc CC) 13:58:02 --- quit: nighty-_ (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke) 14:16:15 --- quit: Mat4 (Quit: Verlassend) 14:24:55 --- quit: true-grue (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15:06:27 --- quit: joneshf-laptop (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 15:07:39 --- quit: pointfree (Remote host closed the connection) 15:09:56 --- join: joneshf-laptop (~joneshf@98.208.35.89) joined #forth 15:15:05 --- join: vsg1990 (~vsg1990@cpe-67-241-148-119.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined #forth 15:22:43 --- quit: MrMobius (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 15:28:53 --- join: MrMobius (~Joey@c-68-45-16-225.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined #forth 15:29:59 --- quit: MrMobius (Disconnected by services) 15:30:12 --- join: MrM0bius (~Joey@c-68-45-16-225.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined #forth 15:56:39 --- join: ASau (~user@176.0.120.47) joined #forth 16:15:08 --- quit: ASau (Remote host closed the connection) 16:15:22 --- join: ASau (~user@176.0.120.47) joined #forth 16:18:55 --- join: Keshl (~Purple@24.115.181.94.res-cmts.gld.ptd.net) joined #forth 16:30:52 --- quit: ASau (Remote host closed the connection) 16:31:25 --- join: ASau (~user@176.0.120.47) joined #forth 17:05:09 --- join: vsg1990_ (~vsg1990@cpe-67-241-148-119.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined #forth 17:18:02 --- quit: vsg1990 (*.net *.split) 17:25:16 --- join: xyh (~user@14.150.214.241) joined #forth 17:26:26 --- join: MrMobius (~Joey@c-68-45-16-225.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined #forth 17:27:08 --- quit: MrM0bius (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 17:29:27 --- quit: MrMobius (Disconnected by services) 17:29:40 --- join: MrM0bius (~Joey@c-68-45-16-225.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined #forth 17:32:48 proteusguy, here's the point: stack-allocated dynamic programming language 17:38:19 --- quit: xyh (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 17:38:36 --- join: xyh (~user@14.150.214.241) joined #forth 17:39:03 Soni: let stack allocate memory dynamicly (automaticly) ? 17:43:05 I'm making a Lua fork with stack allocation, pass-by-value and references 17:43:09 oh, and emoji 18:21:26 --- quit: xyh (Remote host closed the connection) 18:48:54 --- quit: vsg1990_ (Quit: Leaving) 19:52:57 --- join: atommann (~atommann@58.251.2.94) joined #forth 19:54:05 --- join: darkf (~darkf___@unaffiliated/darkf) joined #forth 20:13:11 --- quit: atommann (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20:13:29 --- join: atommann (~atommann@58.251.2.94) joined #forth 22:14:40 --- join: fantazo (~fantazo@089144195254.atnat0004.highway.a1.net) joined #forth 22:24:53 Soni, oh well you should have just started with emoji! ;) Who needs convincing after that? 22:43:03 well I can't call it a Lua fork tbh 22:43:12 it's just Lua-inspired 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/15.07.21