00:00:00 --- log: started forth/15.07.04 00:34:59 --- join: true-grue (~grue@95-27-137-147.broadband.corbina.ru) joined #forth 00:35:05 + 01:06:41 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 01:06:48 + 01:19:16 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@ppp-110-168-230-174.revip5.asianet.co.th) joined #forth 01:19:17 --- mode: ChanServ set +v proteusguy 01:57:31 proteusguy: 02:56:02 --- quit: carc (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 03:12:43 + 04:12:50 --- join: pgomes (~pgomes@ip923476d3.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) joined #forth 04:25:56 --- quit: true-grue (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 04:52:34 --- join: true-grue (~grue@95-27-136-182.broadband.corbina.ru) joined #forth 05:07:03 --- quit: true-grue (Remote host closed the connection) 05:28:52 --- quit: JohnMarkM (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 05:32:53 --- join: JohnMarkM (~johnmark@24.1.223.32) joined #forth 05:59:51 --- join: bedah (~bedah@dyndsl-037-138-025-038.ewe-ip-backbone.de) joined #forth 06:26:49 --- join: _spt_ (~jaat@unaffiliated/-spt-/x-5624824) joined #forth 06:28:08 --- join: true-grue (~grue@95-27-139-97.broadband.corbina.ru) joined #forth 06:53:14 + 06:55:55 --- quit: pgomes (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 07:12:15 Quiznos : 07:12:16 ? 07:12:17 ? 07:13:10 + 07:13:16 mornin 07:14:58 Ah - good evening from Bangkok. 07:15:08 hi 07:15:10 k 07:17:18 proteusguy: any nasty events over there in psat 24h? 07:21:55 Nope - why? There supposed to be some? 07:22:39 perhaps; but i'm asking you a native bc i dont trust .us main stream media. 07:23:13 the media here arae saying that .us govt spooks arae hearing increseed chatter 07:23:30 Where is "here" for you 07:23:32 ? 07:23:37 Florida 07:23:51 Interesting. Whereabouts in FL? 07:23:52 but anything could happen globally 07:23:56 sw 07:24:01 peave r. 07:24:03 peace 07:24:46 hard to know what to expect in Thailand but while we almost never expect it, neither are we ever really surprised when it happens. ;) 07:25:08 sure 07:25:34 <_spt_> afternoon - form the uk 07:25:39 i'm the same way bc of what i learned from the bible. 07:25:43 hi 07:26:07 send me fish an dchips to go, with page 3 wrapper. 07:27:11 that's suposd to be funi ;] 07:27:11 <_spt_> any one got scans of this book? http://www.jupiter-ace.co.uk/book_forth_ISBN-inside-f83.html 07:27:18 no body get me 07:27:55 <_spt_> why page 3? 07:28:00 _spt_, never heard of the book before actually. 07:28:06 i like girls 07:28:12 haha page 3 has the topless girls on it! 07:28:29 * proteusguy doesn't believe _spt_ is actually from UK now... :P 07:28:30 they used to. they ended that feature this year 07:28:44 but we still have the intaarwebs. 07:28:56 Quiznos, I bet their readership fell. Hope it did. 07:29:03 of course 07:29:25 <_spt_> that's so old, there's not been page 3 girls for a while now. its in bad taste now! 07:29:44 no it's non-PC; they reuied it for everyone. 07:29:59 i mean it's PC police who ruined it for everyone. 07:30:25 _spt_, it was *never* in good taste. That's what was so wonderful about it! 07:30:43 <_spt_> lol 07:30:47 cleavage and faces. 07:30:57 there is nothin wrong wth either 07:32:05 Just noticed that book is written by C. H. Ting. I think he's in Taiwan and could be contacted directly to see if he's interested in releasing the book as "open source" or something. 07:32:42 ok 07:33:00 follow the brodie model for that 07:33:08 <_spt_> proteusguy:thanks. yes I've tried that get no replies 07:33:38 _spt_, oh? You emailed him or snail mail? 07:38:16 <_spt_> I found an email address - maybe it was and old one. 07:39:08 hmm... yeah hard to say. 07:39:23 post on google groups forth 07:39:42 rather 07:39:49 use ggroups to post on usenet 07:41:24 --- join: vsg1990 (~vsg1990@cpe-67-241-148-119.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined #forth 07:43:00 Probably the best bet. 07:45:35 --- quit: vsg1990 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 07:48:10 --- join: vsg1990 (~vsg1990@cpe-67-241-148-119.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined #forth 07:57:22 --- quit: JohnMarkM (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 07:58:59 --- join: pgomes (~pgomes@ip923476d3.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) joined #forth 07:59:09 --- join: JohnMarkM (~johnmark@24.1.223.32) joined #forth 08:07:15 ok;let's forth! 08:07:57 * proteusguy is generating random content to capacity test a python RESTful API. Sadly not presently using forth. 08:08:07 --- quit: JohnMarkM (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 08:08:11 ok 08:08:20 right tool for the job 08:08:47 the prob is that no one has filled out forth into a proper envirom 08:08:56 we all did thta to ourselves 08:09:25 forth would be quite excellent for this problem if I already had some existing code base to build on top of. As it is this is about a few hours work in python where I do already have this infrastructure ready. 08:09:39 sure 08:10:24 --- join: JohnMarkM (~johnmark@24.1.223.32) joined #forth 08:10:30 When I actually get to use my forth-ish environment for real work then I'll know I've accomplished something. ;) Until then it's just an interesting little thought experiment. 08:10:44 that's too bad 08:11:29 i want a full and flexible environment, as good as perl/py/c/etc 08:11:42 nah - it means my architectural drivers get to be exactly the ones that interest me personally and not what other people want from me. ;) 08:12:03 so I get to focus on the fun stuff first. 08:12:09 but that's not how other environs were developed 08:12:28 perhaps it's time one was? 08:12:36 there was global input but it was the vision of a small group or 1 man 08:12:47 ansi aint the answer either 08:14:08 pick a model and force it upon others by shear weight of environment. 08:14:19 forth, FPAN. 08:14:40 larry wall started perl alone. 08:15:06 and perl is worse than forth as a write only lang. 08:15:13 far worse 08:15:44 sure. forth, perl, python, ruby, even C++ all started off with an original designer and all are still major influencers on their creations. 08:16:02 yes 08:16:40 --- join: kumul (~mool@adsl-64-237-236-41.prtc.net) joined #forth 08:16:50 and with modern hw specs, many if not all of the 8bit limitations must be purged from FIG to make it the environment now. 08:17:34 one perl. oe python. one ruby. one fig. 08:17:45 and fig could dominate very easaily 08:18:05 it is an excellent model to bring upto date 08:18:15 _spt_: Looks like You can buy it [[http://www.offete.com/books.html][here]]. 08:18:22 and we can mix in concepts and styles from other lanuages too. 08:20:37 <_spt_> DKordic: thanks, I have a copy second ed 1985 - would have been nice to get it scanned. I also have the cp/m(?) text files. its the figs are in a strange format 08:23:59 --- quit: JohnMarkM (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 08:24:28 --- join: JohnMarkM (~johnmark@24.1.223.32) joined #forth 08:35:09 --- quit: darkf (Quit: Leaving) 09:12:22 --- join: karswell` (~user@80.229.124.222) joined #forth 10:11:25 --- join: fantazo (~fantazo@213.129.230.10) joined #forth 10:18:44 --- quit: _spt_ (Quit: gone to fix a server for Staffc CC) 10:55:43 --- quit: pgomes (Quit: Leaving) 12:56:58 --- quit: fantazo (Quit: Verlassend) 15:33:37 --- quit: karswell` (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15:35:18 --- join: karswell` (~user@80.229.124.222) joined #forth 15:57:03 --- quit: true-grue (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16:00:06 --- quit: bedah (Quit: quitting) 16:40:22 --- quit: karswell` (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16:41:38 --- join: karswell` (~user@80.229.124.222) joined #forth 17:21:29 --- quit: karswell` (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17:22:49 --- join: karswell` (~user@80.229.124.222) joined #forth 17:24:45 --- quit: karswell` (Remote host closed the connection) 17:26:05 --- join: karswell` (~user@80.229.124.222) joined #forth 17:55:14 + 19:10:42 --- quit: vsg1990 (Quit: Leaving) 20:13:15 --- join: darkf (~darkf___@unaffiliated/darkf) joined #forth 20:42:41 --- quit: JohnMarkM (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 20:45:40 --- join: JohnMarkM (~johnmark@24.1.223.32) joined #forth 21:24:32 --- quit: karswell` (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21:25:51 --- join: karswell` (~user@80.229.124.222) joined #forth 21:27:32 --- quit: karswell` (Remote host closed the connection) 21:28:51 --- join: karswell` (~user@80.229.124.222) joined #forth 21:57:19 --- quit: karswell` (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23:26:59 --- join: impomatic_ (~digital_w@22.125.115.87.dyn.plus.net) joined #forth 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/15.07.04