00:00:00 --- log: started forth/15.03.23 00:37:49 --- join: xyh (~xyh@2001:250:3002:5550:6ea1:cc0f:bcb2:b187) joined #forth 00:44:13 --- join: ASau (~user@176.0.92.123) joined #forth 01:32:25 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 01:32:53 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-98-210-219-91.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 01:37:16 --- quit: mnemnion (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 02:24:20 --- join: fantazo (~fantazo@213.129.230.10) joined #forth 02:29:36 --- join: ASau` (~user@176.0.92.123) joined #forth 02:33:00 --- quit: ASau (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 02:37:11 --- quit: atommann (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 02:37:38 --- join: atommann (~atommann@58.251.2.94) joined #forth 02:45:45 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@183.89.92.186) joined #forth 02:45:45 --- mode: ChanServ set +v proteusguy 02:48:45 --- nick: ASau` -> ASau 02:59:54 --- quit: true-grue (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 03:04:18 --- join: true-grue (~grue@95-27-149-40.broadband.corbina.ru) joined #forth 03:04:27 --- quit: atommann (Quit: Leaving) 03:24:09 --- nick: Keshl_ -> Keshl 04:03:59 --- quit: karswell (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04:46:07 --- join: vsg1990 (~vsg1990@cpe-67-241-148-119.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined #forth 05:23:20 --- quit: irsol (Remote host closed the connection) 05:27:54 --- quit: fantazo (Remote host closed the connection) 05:31:46 --- join: irsol (~irsol@unaffiliated/contempt) joined #forth 05:33:12 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-98-210-219-91.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 05:37:48 --- quit: mnemnion (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 06:04:38 --- join: saml_ (~saml@cpe-24-102-97-97.nyc.res.rr.com) joined #forth 06:16:59 --- join: nighty-_ (~nighty@hokuriku.rural-networks.com) joined #forth 06:41:21 --- join: kumul (~mool@adsl-72-50-86-148.prtc.net) joined #forth 07:05:32 --- quit: kumul (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 07:10:26 --- join: kumul (~mool@adsl-72-50-86-148.prtc.net) joined #forth 07:18:47 --- quit: darkf (Quit: Leaving) 07:32:50 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-98-210-219-91.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 08:04:17 --- quit: kumul (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08:20:50 --- quit: proteusguy (Remote host closed the connection) 08:21:24 --- join: johnmark_ (~johnmark@c-73-51-235-57.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined #forth 08:58:33 --- quit: saml_ (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 09:07:23 --- join: mark4 (~mark4@38.122.200.194) joined #forth 09:16:54 --- join: impomatic (~chatzilla@61.205.125.91.dyn.plus.net) joined #forth 09:26:18 --- quit: ionthas_ (Quit: leaving) 09:26:37 --- join: ionthas (~ionthas@95.85.1.209) joined #forth 10:33:44 --- join: Zarutian (~Adium@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is) joined #forth 10:58:56 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@ppp-110-168-230-32.revip5.asianet.co.th) joined #forth 10:58:56 --- mode: ChanServ set +v proteusguy 11:59:51 --- quit: xyh (Remote host closed the connection) 12:05:14 --- quit: Keshl (*.net *.split) 12:05:25 --- quit: yunfan (*.net *.split) 12:05:43 --- join: yunfan (~roooot@unaffiliated/yunfan) joined #forth 12:05:45 --- join: Keshl (~Purple@24.115.181.94.res-cmts.gld.ptd.net) joined #forth 12:16:19 So I brought FORTH into an answer for a quora question about future programming languages. ;-) Thought I'd share: http://www.quora.com/What-is-the-most-valuable-programming-language-to-know-for-the-future-and-why/answer/Ben-Scherrey 12:44:39 --- quit: Zarutian (Quit: Leaving.) 12:55:13 --- quit: vsg1990 (Quit: Leaving) 14:07:38 --- join: saml_ (~saml@cpe-24-102-97-97.nyc.res.rr.com) joined #forth 14:07:40 --- quit: joneshf-laptop (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14:08:02 --- join: joneshf-laptop (~joneshf@98.208.35.89) joined #forth 14:10:30 --- join: Zarutian (~Adium@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is) joined #forth 14:31:44 --- join: kumul (~mool@adsl-64-237-238-159.prtc.net) joined #forth 14:36:04 --- quit: kumul (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 14:45:24 --- join: Mat4 (~cz@ip5b42e358.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) joined #forth 14:45:28 hi all 14:58:10 --- quit: true-grue (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15:32:08 hey Mat4 15:32:20 hi bluekelp 15:32:43 study array processors at moment 15:34:01 nice. i have one more task (basic test positioning/cursor tracking) in asm before i start putting the forth into my bare metal os/forth 15:34:14 text* positioning 15:34:39 with that, i'll have i/o enough to interact with the system and boostrap it 15:38:37 nice, I decided to simply parse the MB Bios tables for memory and SMP setup information 15:39:58 this way, writing an ACPI interpreter is avoidable 15:40:49 MB = SM Bios tables 15:48:39 --- join: fugue (~fugue@gbc1124332.lnk.telstra.net) joined #forth 15:58:07 ACPI stands for what in this context? 16:01:05 https://acpica.org/ 16:02:12 the Linux kernel parses ACPI table structures for SMP initialisation and memory detection (beside power managment) 16:02:45 sadly, the standard has several flaws and is somewhat unclear so many pitfalls exist 16:03:08 --- join: karswell (~user@87.114.85.103) joined #forth 16:10:59 so, it mostly is a shitty openfirmware wannabe 16:20:34 have you seen any PC related firmware standard which doesn't end up in a mess ? I don't 16:25:32 for the future, thanks to Microsoft I can 16:25:59 handle width SecureBoot 16:34:33 need some sleep, ciao 16:34:41 --- part: Mat4 left #forth 16:55:15 --- quit: mark4 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17:00:32 --- quit: nighty-_ (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke) 17:15:26 to answer Mat4 question: I have only seen part of openfirmware. I do not know it that standard has ended up in a mess other than Oracle. 17:22:40 a firmware has to do few things: enumate connected devices/capabilities of the hardware, find and load operating system and act as an interface for said os to the hardware if the designer is so inclined. 17:32:52 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 17:33:56 --- join: mnemnion_ (~mnemnion@c-98-210-219-91.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 17:38:40 --- quit: malyn (Quit: "") 17:38:56 --- join: malyn (~malyn@unaffiliated/malyn) joined #forth 17:45:09 --- quit: Zarutian (Quit: Leaving.) 18:18:04 --- join: gabriel_laddel (~user@unaffiliated/gabriel-laddel/x-9909917) joined #forth 18:42:33 --- join: darkf (~darkf___@unaffiliated/darkf) joined #forth 18:47:12 --- quit: gabriel_laddel (Remote host closed the connection) 19:05:20 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 19:13:27 --- join: atommann (~atommann@58.251.2.94) joined #forth 19:17:57 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@ppp-110-168-229-236.revip5.asianet.co.th) joined #forth 19:17:58 --- mode: ChanServ set +v proteusguy 19:19:36 --- quit: saml_ (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 19:36:28 --- quit: atommann (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 19:53:43 --- join: atommann (~atommann@58.251.2.94) joined #forth 19:56:26 --- join: ASau` (~user@46.115.27.197) joined #forth 19:59:57 --- quit: ASau (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 20:30:24 --- quit: johnmark_ (Quit: Leaving) 20:31:43 --- nick: ASau` -> ASau 20:54:42 --- join: gabriel_laddel (~user@unaffiliated/gabriel-laddel/x-9909917) joined #forth 21:01:30 --- quit: MrMobius (Disconnected by services) 21:01:42 --- join: MrM0bius (~Joey@c-68-45-16-225.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined #forth 21:28:11 --- quit: gabriel_laddel (Remote host closed the connection) 22:43:47 --- quit: fugue (Quit: leaving) 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/15.03.23