00:00:00 --- log: started forth/15.03.02 00:00:05 --- join: bjorkintosh (~bjork@ip68-13-229-200.ok.ok.cox.net) joined #forth 00:47:07 --- quit: lynx` (Remote host closed the connection) 00:51:20 --- join: Bahman (~Bahman@85.133.140.132) joined #forth 01:20:25 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 01:20:52 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-98-210-219-91.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 01:25:17 --- quit: mnemnion (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 02:07:09 --- join: true-grue (~grue@95-27-168-255.broadband.corbina.ru) joined #forth 02:31:27 --- quit: proteusguy (Remote host closed the connection) 03:50:08 --- quit: fugue2 (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 03:50:44 --- join: fugue2 (~fugue@60-240-225-150.tpgi.com.au) joined #forth 04:01:12 --- quit: fugue2 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 04:02:09 --- join: fugue2 (~fugue@60-240-225-150.tpgi.com.au) joined #forth 04:20:41 --- quit: fugue2 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04:21:35 --- join: fugue2 (~fugue@60-240-225-150.tpgi.com.au) joined #forth 04:32:52 --- quit: fugue2 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 04:33:57 --- join: fugue2 (~fugue@60-240-225-150.tpgi.com.au) joined #forth 04:44:18 --- quit: fugue2 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 04:45:19 --- join: fugue2 (~fugue@60-240-225-150.tpgi.com.au) joined #forth 04:54:46 --- join: nighty-_ (~nighty@hokuriku.rural-networks.com) joined #forth 04:55:47 --- quit: fugue2 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 04:56:39 --- join: fugue2 (~fugue@60-240-225-150.tpgi.com.au) joined #forth 05:07:51 --- quit: fugue2 (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 05:09:03 --- join: fugue2 (~fugue@60-240-225-150.tpgi.com.au) joined #forth 05:20:37 --- quit: ASau (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 05:21:17 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-98-210-219-91.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 05:22:27 --- quit: fugue2 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 05:23:25 --- join: fugue2 (~fugue@60-240-225-150.tpgi.com.au) joined #forth 05:25:43 --- quit: mnemnion (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 05:38:51 --- quit: fugue2 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 05:39:53 --- join: fugue2 (~fugue@60-240-225-150.tpgi.com.au) joined #forth 06:08:35 --- join: xyh (~xieyuheng@2001:250:3002:5550:6ea1:cc0f:bcb2:b187) joined #forth 06:09:46 --- quit: nighty-_ (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 06:13:06 --- join: nighty-_ (~nighty@hokuriku.rural-networks.com) joined #forth 06:21:31 --- quit: Bahman (Quit: Ave atque vale) 06:22:39 --- join: Zarutian (~Adium@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is) joined #forth 06:46:04 --- join: ASau (~user@46.115.5.110) joined #forth 07:01:49 --- quit: fugue2 (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 07:02:25 --- join: fugue2 (~fugue@60-240-225-150.tpgi.com.au) joined #forth 07:06:42 --- quit: bluekelp (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 07:17:44 --- quit: darkf (Quit: Leaving) 07:20:56 --- join: bluekelp (~bluekelp@bluekelp.com) joined #forth 07:35:55 --- join: kumul (~mool@adsl-72-50-86-122.prtc.net) joined #forth 07:36:58 --- quit: joneshf-laptop (Remote host closed the connection) 07:41:50 --- quit: kumul (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 07:45:54 --- join: ASau` (~user@46.115.175.108) joined #forth 07:47:30 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@ppp-110-168-230-42.revip5.asianet.co.th) joined #forth 07:47:31 --- mode: ChanServ set +v proteusguy 07:49:49 --- quit: ASau (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 07:53:02 --- join: gabriel_laddel (~user@unaffiliated/gabriel-laddel/x-9909917) joined #forth 08:09:29 --- join: johnmark (~johnmark@c-73-51-235-57.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined #forth 08:21:38 --- nick: ASau` -> ASau 08:23:03 --- quit: johnmark (Disconnected by services) 08:23:30 --- join: johnmark_ (~johnmark@c-73-51-235-57.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined #forth 08:29:04 Hmm.. anyone here have any experience of running a Forth on a 'bare metal' VM at cloud computing provider? 08:43:23 --- quit: bluekelp (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 08:43:34 --- join: bluekelp (~bluekelp@bluekelp.com) joined #forth 08:46:21 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-98-210-219-91.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 09:08:42 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 09:12:15 --- quit: fugue2 (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 09:12:43 --- join: fugue2 (~fugue@60-240-225-150.tpgi.com.au) joined #forth 10:15:42 --- quit: fugue2 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10:19:22 --- join: bedah (~bedah@g224241194.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined #forth 10:30:54 --- join: joneshf-laptop (~joneshf@campus-048-092.ucdavis.edu) joined #forth 10:43:28 --- quit: Zarutian (Quit: Leaving.) 10:56:42 reading http://www.ultratechnology.com/ModernForthCompilerBenchmarks.htm it talks about using the compiler as part of the application 10:57:06 can someone explain this a little more? it's stated as fact but i'm still green w/forth and haven't seen examples of this in action 11:13:15 --- quit: gabriel_laddel (Remote host closed the connection) 11:16:51 --- quit: johnmark_ (Quit: Leaving) 11:23:53 --- join: on4k (~none@78.90.30.16) joined #forth 11:32:54 --- join: fugue2 (~fugue@60-240-225-150.tpgi.com.au) joined #forth 11:36:18 --- join: markm_ (~markm@38.122.200.194) joined #forth 11:40:17 bluekelp: "using the compiler as part of the application" 11:40:25 maybe it means that the interpreter is the application, 11:40:39 when you type a function definition into the interpreter, it compiles a function for you, i.e. it creates a new piece of structured data in the memory. 11:43:12 that's the only thing i could think of - creating a DSL-like program where you type in words to "do stuff" and/or the system generates (text) word-list (macro style) from your input and compiles those before running, etc. 12:00:01 --- quit: fugue2 (Quit: leaving) 12:09:33 bluekelp: I have readed part of the article, "compiling a source-file to target-file" is very different from "calling functions in the interpreter to make data structure (function is one type of data structure) into memory directly" 12:09:48 the latter is easyer IMO, for you do not have to solve the "function calling problem". 12:10:03 when you load many (separate compiled) target-files, a function in one file may call a function in another file. 12:19:39 --- join: gabriel_laddel (~user@unaffiliated/gabriel-laddel/x-9909917) joined #forth 12:21:09 bluekelp: IMO, Forth solves some language implementation problems by not solving them, but to find the real problem that causes them. (for example: "what the freak is a linker?!") 12:32:21 --- join: johnmark_ (~johnmark@c-73-51-235-57.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined #forth 12:34:49 --- quit: gabriel_laddel (Remote host closed the connection) 12:46:32 xyh lol you just said it 12:47:34 so i just wrote arduino code to create a zigbee (ish) mesh network using xbee radio modules. it took 3 days to code and when i tested it... IT WORKED!!!!!!!! 12:47:45 3 days of coding with no testing and the code worked perfectly first time 12:48:06 about 600 lines of C code 13:06:13 nice 13:06:43 inorite lol 13:24:15 --- join: Zarutian (~Adium@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is) joined #forth 13:27:03 --- join: gabriel_laddel (~user@unaffiliated/gabriel-laddel/x-9909917) joined #forth 13:36:11 --- quit: on4k (Quit: Leaving) 13:44:45 --- quit: nighty-_ (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke) 13:56:15 --- quit: true-grue (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14:04:51 --- join: nighty-_ (~nighty@hokuriku.rural-networks.com) joined #forth 14:05:38 --- quit: bedah (Quit: bye) 14:06:47 --- quit: nighty^ (Quit: leaving) 14:08:37 --- join: nighty^ (~nighty@static-68-179-124-161.ptr.terago.net) joined #forth 14:20:32 --- quit: xyh (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 14:21:31 --- quit: gabriel_laddel (Remote host closed the connection) 14:22:27 --- quit: karswell (Remote host closed the connection) 14:23:30 --- join: karswell` (~user@182.13.199.146.dyn.plus.net) joined #forth 14:40:31 --- quit: joneshf-laptop (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 14:50:19 --- join: fugue (~fugue@gbc1124332.lnk.telstra.net) joined #forth 15:11:23 --- quit: nighty-_ (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 15:26:39 :star 42 emit ; 15:26:49 i mean 15:26:52 : star 42 emit 15:26:54 ; 15:40:31 right out of starting forth :) 15:44:08 "Forth starring the little exec guy!" 16:01:50 --- quit: Zarutian (Quit: Leaving.) 16:42:27 --- quit: markm_ (Quit: Leaving) 16:59:32 but i think if you want to got high pay from your boss, you need to knew some `other` technology 17:30:05 ?? 17:36:00 --- join: darkf (~darkf___@unaffiliated/darkf) joined #forth 17:48:39 --- join: saml_ (~saml@cpe-24-102-97-97.nyc.res.rr.com) joined #forth 17:54:25 What if the eproms in the widgets your company makes are all written in Forth? 17:55:57 What it you discover something analogous to "the lost city of atlantis" when you discover that some ancient programmer helpfully provided a debug port you can connect a serial terminal to so you can have a forth repl to talk to your widget? 17:56:38 --- join: kumul (~mool@adsl-72-50-84-250.prtc.net) joined #forth 17:58:12 i dont work for embed domain company 18:01:28 markm_: you want more? 18:01:33 15 spaces 18:22:58 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 19:06:24 --- join: fox__ (~fox@119.2.12.162) joined #forth 19:18:30 --- quit: fox__ (Quit: fox__) 19:20:43 --- join: fox__ (~fox@119.2.12.162) joined #forth 20:06:01 --- quit: kumul (Quit: Leaving) 20:32:44 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-98-210-219-91.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 20:45:28 --- quit: johnmark_ (Quit: Leaving) 20:45:40 --- quit: fox__ (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 20:51:45 --- join: fox__ (~fox@119.2.12.162) joined #forth 21:03:15 --- quit: fox__ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21:03:44 --- quit: saml_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21:10:09 --- join: fox__ (~fox@119.2.12.162) joined #forth 21:35:26 --- join: xyh (~xieyuheng@2001:250:3002:5550:6ea1:cc0f:bcb2:b187) joined #forth 22:05:17 --- join: fox___ (~fox@119.2.12.162) joined #forth 22:05:55 --- quit: fox__ (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 22:28:57 --- quit: fugue (Quit: leaving) 22:50:36 --- join: gabriel_laddel (~user@unaffiliated/gabriel-laddel/x-9909917) joined #forth 23:17:18 --- quit: fox___ (Quit: fox___) 23:18:12 --- join: fox__ (~fox@119.2.12.162) joined #forth 23:23:09 --- quit: gabriel_laddel (Remote host closed the connection) 23:24:33 --- quit: karswell` (Remote host closed the connection) 23:25:45 --- join: karswell` (~user@182.13.199.146.dyn.plus.net) joined #forth 23:27:48 --- join: true-grue (~grue@95-27-189-174.broadband.corbina.ru) joined #forth 23:54:52 --- quit: fox__ (Quit: fox__) 23:56:48 --- join: fox__ (~fox@119.2.12.162) joined #forth 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/15.03.02