00:00:00 --- log: started forth/15.01.08 00:20:31 --- join: nighty^ (~nighty@hokuriku.rural-networks.com) joined #forth 00:33:12 yunfan, if you have a forth that can call the java apis then sure but android is such a restricted environment it's anti-forth I think. 01:00:40 proteusguy: no , i dont think android is restricted, why other language has a android version? 01:00:54 while forth community people just keep hate it 01:03:58 yunfan, unless it is a rooted device the environment your code runs in is very restricted in terms of control over the device and being able to work with other apps. Everything MUST go through the Android system calls in java. 01:04:26 yunfan, I don't hate android at all. We're building our bigget android project right now in fact. 01:31:22 --- join: fantazo (~fantazo@089144219040.atnat0028.highway.a1.net) joined #forth 01:38:42 --- join: true-grue (~grue@95-27-174-251.broadband.corbina.ru) joined #forth 01:57:22 yunfan: Every other language has an android version? That's a pretty strong claim that I can dismantle with three examples off the top of my head: Mercury, OCaml, and Erlang. 02:31:42 --- quit: proteusguy (Remote host closed the connection) 03:20:13 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 03:23:25 and Oberon. 03:23:31 it lacks an android version. 03:23:33 :D 03:33:34 --- quit: bjorkintosh (Quit: Leaving) 03:41:42 --- quit: nighty^ (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke) 03:43:07 --- join: bjorkintosh (~bjork@ip68-13-229-200.ok.ok.cox.net) joined #forth 03:45:39 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@ppp-110-168-229-44.revip5.asianet.co.th) joined #forth 03:45:39 --- mode: ChanServ set +v proteusguy 04:24:11 ttmrichter: like clojure lua pascal 04:28:28 --- quit: true-grue (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04:29:44 --- join: true-grue (~grue@95-27-174-251.broadband.corbina.ru) joined #forth 04:44:16 --- quit: samrat (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 04:54:08 --- join: rick-monster (~rick@94.228.69.144) joined #forth 05:06:08 --- part: rick-monster left #forth 05:08:40 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-98-210-219-91.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 05:10:40 --- join: nighty^ (~nighty@hokuriku.rural-networks.com) joined #forth 05:13:01 --- quit: mnemnion (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 05:43:11 --- join: gabriel_laddel (~user@2601:9:4f81:acb0:221:6aff:fea4:6db8) joined #forth 05:43:20 --- quit: gabriel_laddel (Changing host) 05:43:20 --- join: gabriel_laddel (~user@unaffiliated/gabriel-laddel/x-9909917) joined #forth 06:05:40 --- join: samrat (~samrat@123.236.183.195) joined #forth 06:50:09 --- nick: Hakkavelin2 -> Hakkavelin 06:50:30 --- quit: Hakkavelin (Changing host) 06:50:30 --- join: Hakkavelin (~Polarina@unaffiliated/hv) joined #forth 06:53:51 --- quit: Bahman (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 06:54:33 --- quit: samrat (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 06:56:13 --- join: Bahman (~Bahman@188.159.235.203) joined #forth 06:57:36 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-98-210-219-91.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 07:02:38 --- quit: mnemnion (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 07:21:04 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-98-210-219-91.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 07:25:36 --- quit: mnemnion (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 07:42:02 --- quit: darkf (Quit: Leaving) 08:05:12 --- quit: fantazo (Quit: Verlassend) 08:11:25 --- quit: proteusguy (Remote host closed the connection) 08:25:37 --- join: Savoyard (~Savoyard@unaffiliated/savoyard) joined #forth 08:26:53 --- quit: Savoyard (Client Quit) 08:28:10 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@ppp-110-168-229-44.revip5.asianet.co.th) joined #forth 08:28:10 --- mode: ChanServ set +v proteusguy 09:24:45 --- join: _spt_ (~jaat@host-92-18-143-117.as13285.net) joined #forth 09:24:45 --- quit: _spt_ (Changing host) 09:24:45 --- join: _spt_ (~jaat@unaffiliated/-spt-/x-5624824) joined #forth 09:25:29 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-98-210-219-91.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 09:37:36 --- join: Savoyard (~Savoyard@unaffiliated/savoyard) joined #forth 09:42:05 --- quit: Savoyard (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 09:49:21 --- join: mark4__ (~mark4@cpe-68-203-183-77.tx.res.rr.com) joined #forth 09:54:33 --- quit: mark4__ (Quit: Leaving) 10:08:57 --- quit: Bahman (Quit: brb) 10:11:08 --- join: Bahman (~Bahman@188.159.235.203) joined #forth 10:33:18 --- join: samrat (~samrat@123.236.183.195) joined #forth 10:43:28 --- join: Savoyard (~Savoyard@unaffiliated/savoyard) joined #forth 10:59:14 --- join: xyh (~xieyuheng@2001:250:3002:5550:6ea1:cc0f:bcb2:b187) joined #forth 11:37:18 --- quit: I440r (Quit: Leaving) 12:01:41 --- quit: mark4_ (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 12:21:12 --- quit: xyh (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 12:53:55 --- quit: samrat (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 13:16:44 --- quit: Savoyard (Quit: Be back later ...) 13:26:38 --- join: Savoyard (~Savoyard@unaffiliated/savoyard) joined #forth 14:01:22 --- quit: true-grue (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14:07:52 --- quit: Savoyard (Quit: Be back later ...) 14:22:03 --- quit: irsol (Quit: leaving) 14:28:13 --- join: irsol (~irsol@unaffiliated/contempt) joined #forth 14:34:42 --- join: Savoyard (~Savoyard@unaffiliated/savoyard) joined #forth 14:34:42 --- join: fantazo (~fantazo@089144201024.atnat0010.highway.a1.net) joined #forth 15:44:08 --- quit: _spt_ (Quit: gone to fix a server for Staffc CC) 15:55:31 --- join: Zamenhof (~Greyhat@12.181.213.135) joined #forth 15:56:50 is it me or why is entering in here someone with the name of the creator of the planned language esperanto? 15:59:05 its a nick. you could say Esperanto is the very first open source project... 16:00:04 so you chose it because of open source considerations, not because that you speak it. 16:00:51 I speak it a little. I'm a bit rusty. 16:09:59 --- quit: fantazo (Quit: Verlassend) 16:35:33 --- quit: Savoyard (Quit: Be back later ...) 16:44:20 --- quit: Zamenhof (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 16:52:25 --- join: Zamenhof (~Greyhat@12.181.213.135) joined #forth 16:53:25 --- quit: Zamenhof (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16:56:56 --- join: Zamenhof (~Greyhat@12.181.213.135) joined #forth 17:00:12 --- quit: gabriel_laddel (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 17:01:38 --- join: Savoyard (~Savoyard@unaffiliated/savoyard) joined #forth 17:38:32 --- join: saml_ (~saml@cpe-24-102-97-97.nyc.res.rr.com) joined #forth 17:55:20 --- nick: karswell` -> karswell 18:16:14 --- quit: nighty^ (Remote host closed the connection) 18:17:20 --- quit: Savoyard (Quit: Be back later ...) 18:32:16 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 18:42:06 would not surprise me if you all have seen this, but a 1k compiler is just amazing http://www.retroprogramming.com/2012/03/itsy-forth-1k-tiny-compiler.html 18:45:59 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@ppp-110-168-229-44.revip5.asianet.co.th) joined #forth 18:45:59 --- mode: ChanServ set +v proteusguy 19:06:05 --- join: Savoyard (~Savoyard@unaffiliated/savoyard) joined #forth 19:18:09 --- join: I440r (~mark4@cpe-68-203-183-77.tx.res.rr.com) joined #forth 19:18:09 --- mode: ChanServ set +o I440r 19:23:52 --- join: darkf (~darkf___@unaffiliated/darkf) joined #forth 20:12:10 --- join: samrat (~samrat@123.236.183.195) joined #forth 20:17:57 --- quit: Savoyard (Quit: Be back later ...) 20:29:45 --- quit: samrat (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20:34:18 --- join: samrat (~samrat@123.236.183.195) joined #forth 20:35:13 --- quit: samrat (Client Quit) 20:42:58 --- join: samrat (~samrat@123.236.183.195) joined #forth 20:44:53 --- join: Savoyard (~Savoyard@unaffiliated/savoyard) joined #forth 20:49:19 --- quit: Savoyard (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 20:52:36 --- quit: samrat (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 20:57:40 Zamenhof: its cool, but i dont mind paying more kilobytes for optimizing 21:04:37 --- quit: saml_ (Quit: Leaving) 21:06:11 true. how much more space would be used for optimization? 21:17:39 i've no idea, because i dont know how much space can it be optimized 21:18:17 unless i am wring a worm, i dont care if its 1k or 64k 21:19:03 but a 1k worm might be easy to broadcast via mobile network or even via SMS :] 21:28:51 --- join: Savoyard (~Savoyard@unaffiliated/savoyard) joined #forth 21:33:17 --- quit: Savoyard (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 21:43:17 --- join: true-grue (~grue@95-27-190-100.broadband.corbina.ru) joined #forth 21:53:48 --- quit: Zamenhof (Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1) 21:55:43 --- join: samrat (~samrat@61.12.96.226) joined #forth 22:50:02 --- quit: DKordic (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22:50:56 --- join: DKordic (~user@178-221-249-236.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs) joined #forth 23:18:18 --- join: Savoyard (~Savoyard@unaffiliated/savoyard) joined #forth 23:22:44 --- quit: Savoyard (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/15.01.08