00:00:00 --- log: started forth/14.11.29 00:13:36 --- join: true-grue (~grue@128-69-66-94.broadband.corbina.ru) joined #forth 00:40:12 --- join: ASau` (~user@46.114.56.45) joined #forth 00:42:29 --- quit: mnemnion_ (Remote host closed the connection) 00:43:07 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-98-210-219-91.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 00:43:20 --- quit: ASau (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 00:47:58 --- quit: mnemnion (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 01:25:37 --- join: Bahman (~Bahman@84.241.8.144) joined #forth 01:34:09 --- quit: Bahman (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01:38:59 --- join: Bahman (~Bahman@84.241.8.144) joined #forth 01:41:09 --- quit: PoppaVic (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02:29:58 --- join: Azel (~Thunderbi@vig91-h03-89-84-5-35.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) joined #forth 02:41:49 --- join: nighty^ (~nighty@hokuriku.rural-networks.com) joined #forth 02:43:37 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-98-210-219-91.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 02:47:49 --- quit: mnemnion (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02:48:50 --- quit: true-grue (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04:13:02 --- quit: Azel (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 04:25:42 --- nick: ASau` -> ASau 04:43:09 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-98-210-219-91.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 04:43:26 --- quit: bjorkintosh (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 04:47:30 --- quit: mnemnion (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05:05:27 --- quit: Bahman (Quit: Leaving.) 05:24:45 --- join: Zarutian (~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is) joined #forth 05:25:11 --- quit: Zarutian (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05:25:25 --- join: Zarutian (~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is) joined #forth 05:42:36 --- quit: nighty^ (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 05:43:13 --- nick: nox_ -> nox 06:04:05 --- join: nighty^ (~nighty@hokuriku.rural-networks.com) joined #forth 06:15:35 --- quit: nighty^ (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 06:35:22 --- quit: tangentstorm (Quit: enough.) 07:23:27 --- join: RodgerTheGreat (~rodger@66.190.184.104) joined #forth 07:33:37 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-98-210-219-91.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 08:10:48 --- join: lazyden (~lazyden@bb220-255-52-114.singnet.com.sg) joined #forth 08:12:07 --- quit: lazyden (Client Quit) 08:12:33 --- join: lazyden (~lazyden@bb220-255-52-114.singnet.com.sg) joined #forth 08:40:08 --- join: Bahman (~Bahman@188.159.53.9) joined #forth 08:42:50 --- quit: lazyden (Quit: lazyden) 08:43:35 --- join: lazyden (~lazyden@bb220-255-52-114.singnet.com.sg) joined #forth 08:56:36 --- quit: Zarutian (Quit: Zarutian) 08:57:54 --- quit: lazyden (Quit: lazyden) 08:59:57 --- join: lazyden (~lazyden@bb220-255-52-114.singnet.com.sg) joined #forth 09:19:11 --- quit: lazyden (Quit: lazyden) 09:19:40 --- join: lazyden (~lazyden@bb220-255-52-114.singnet.com.sg) joined #forth 09:20:19 --- join: Zarutian (~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is) joined #forth 09:20:37 --- quit: lazyden (Client Quit) 09:46:56 --- join: Azel (~Thunderbi@vig91-h03-89-84-5-35.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) joined #forth 10:11:47 --- join: darkdonny (521a1d73@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.82.26.29.115) joined #forth 10:13:04 Hello, I am new to forth and i386 assembly. Learning implementation via jonesforth tutorial. does anyone know what : jmp *(%eax) means? 10:16:27 --- join: true-grue (~grue@128-69-66-94.broadband.corbina.ru) joined #forth 10:19:11 ah i see, the * in gnu assembler is absolute address jump 10:34:03 --- join: _spt_ (~jaat@unaffiliated/-spt-/x-5624824) joined #forth 10:39:11 --- quit: Adeon (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 10:39:31 --- join: PoppaVic (~pops@unaffiliated/poppavic) joined #forth 10:40:52 --- join: Adeon (shannon@sukima.trankesbel.com) joined #forth 10:52:27 --- quit: ASau (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 11:15:21 --- join: ASau (~user@46.114.56.45) joined #forth 11:55:39 --- join: impomatic (~chatzilla@86.48.200.146.dyn.plus.net) joined #forth 11:59:10 --- quit: samrat (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 12:01:46 --- join: pgomes (~pgomes@ipb2182f12.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) joined #forth 12:07:48 --- join: Mat4 (~claude@ip5b414c9f.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) joined #forth 12:07:53 hello 12:11:23 <_spt_> hi 12:18:48 --- join: spoofer (~cruella@72.10.28.164) joined #forth 12:26:51 --- join: JDat (~JDat@89.248.91.5) joined #forth 12:33:28 --- join: bjorkintosh (~bjork@ip68-13-229-200.ok.ok.cox.net) joined #forth 12:37:02 hi _spt_ 13:31:30 --- quit: spoofer (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 13:33:31 --- join: spoofer (~cruella@72.10.28.164) joined #forth 13:48:41 --- quit: pgomes (Quit: Leaving) 14:11:23 <_spt_> :) just recovered another Jupiter ACE forth game from a tape, dated 1983! and it runs 14:11:24 --- quit: Mat4 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14:11:33 oh cool 14:11:41 what sort of game is it? 14:12:09 <_spt_> its a text adventure game, I'm get it in the archive tomorrow 14:12:12 --- join: Mat4 (~claude@ip5b414c9f.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) joined #forth 14:12:27 could you get it running on a normal forth implementation or does it use ace-specific stuff? 14:12:58 --- nick: Zarutian -> Zarutian2 14:13:24 <_spt_> well , its Forth-79 no graphics, so I guess it could be done. 14:14:02 so long as it doesn't do anything particularly nasty 14:14:09 cool! 14:14:13 it might make some assumptions about cell sizes 14:14:44 <_spt_> 8bit 14:15:28 that's somewhat unusual. Most forths on 8 bit machines still used 16 bit cells 14:15:43 <_spt_> there is some more data on the end of the tape, so there could be another game, 14:16:11 don;t confuse with a local store with portable 14:25:06 hello there 14:25:22 hello 14:25:45 I'm looking for a C64 FORTH implementation 14:26:05 possibly overriding legacy KERNAL routines 14:26:06 good luck 14:26:16 it's "kernel" 14:27:05 PoppaVic: that's controversial 14:27:28 methinks not. 14:27:34 But, play on 14:27:39 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KERNAL 14:28:39 I.don't.care 14:29:50 maybe someone here does 14:30:47 perhaps, and that would e luck. Perhaps a forth question isn't out of the question> 14:30:52 there are several 6502 forths out there; I don't see why you wouldn't be able to hack one up to use the kernal IO routines and replace BASIC 14:31:04 --- join: Zarutian (~Adium@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is) joined #forth 14:31:05 I am not aware of one prepackaged to work this way 14:32:50 I asked here because maybe you could suggest me a particular implementation 14:32:59 which suits well for reverse engineering 14:33:40 I'm trying Fig Forth, though 14:35:24 FIG was usually an assembler source for a PLACE - so.. what?' 14:36:41 --- quit: spoofer (Remote host closed the connection) 14:36:42 I know there are a few forths that ran on cartridges, like HES FORTH 64 14:36:55 you might be able to dig up rom images? 14:36:56 * PoppaVic sighs 14:37:02 it's by Romic Software, 1983 14:37:13 I don't know what it is 14:37:14 That'd be more implemkentation that FORTH 14:38:29 are you just trying to get a forth running on the C64 or do you have a desire to write one of your own 14:39:51 I had a c64 - nice machine. Not "forth" so, ask the questions. 14:40:27 RodgerTheGreat: both 14:41:08 RodgerTheGreat: relying on the first goal to achieve the second 14:41:31 It would be nice to have a list of games made on Forth. Atari, Macintosh etc. As far as I know most interesting games were made in MacForth. Just one example: Chip Wits. 14:42:03 true-grue: my understanding is that MacForth was one of the first languages you could practically develop with on the mac itself 14:42:15 RodgerTheGreat: That's right. 14:42:37 I think using pascal, etc needed a Lisa in the earliest days and later required a lot of painful floppy-swapping 14:42:54 I am too old 15:02:54 --- quit: Zarutian2 (Quit: not quite it!) 15:15:04 _spt_: Why a cell size of 8 bit where the Z80 support (somewhat efficient) 16 bit register operations (HL) ? 15:21:17 --- quit: darkdonny (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) 15:28:07 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 15:28:33 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-98-210-219-91.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 15:32:58 --- part: Mat4 left #forth 15:33:15 --- quit: mnemnion (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 15:40:14 --- quit: Azel (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 15:42:06 --- join: JDat` (~JDat@89.248.91.5) joined #forth 15:43:22 --- quit: JDat (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 15:45:54 --- quit: JDat` (Client Quit) 15:54:31 --- quit: true-grue (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16:08:26 --- quit: _spt_ (Quit: irc- et) 17:29:16 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-98-210-219-91.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 17:33:54 --- quit: mnemnion (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 17:45:24 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-98-210-219-91.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 18:25:02 --- join: xyh (~xieyuheng@2001:250:3002:5550:6ea1:cc0f:bcb2:b187) joined #forth 18:43:26 --- quit: Zarutian (Quit: Leaving.) 18:43:57 --- join: samrat (~samrat@123.236.183.195) joined #forth 18:48:47 --- quit: samrat (Client Quit) 19:01:06 --- join: tangentstorm (~michal@108-218-151-22.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined #forth 19:02:28 --- quit: karswell (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19:04:23 --- join: karswell (~user@87.114.135.1) joined #forth 19:26:20 --- quit: PoppaVic (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19:35:26 --- join: I440r (~mark4@cpe-68-203-183-77.tx.res.rr.com) joined #forth 19:35:26 --- mode: ChanServ set +o I440r 19:36:20 --- join: samrat (~samrat@123.236.183.195) joined #forth 19:38:55 --- quit: xyh (Remote host closed the connection) 19:43:33 --- quit: karswell (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19:45:58 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 19:46:25 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-98-210-219-91.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 19:47:38 --- join: karswell (~user@87.114.135.1) joined #forth 19:50:59 --- quit: mnemnion (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 20:04:35 --- join: xyh (~xieyuheng@2001:250:3002:5550:6ea1:cc0f:bcb2:b187) joined #forth 20:38:17 --- join: PoppaVic (~pops@unaffiliated/poppavic) joined #forth 21:39:11 --- quit: karswell (Remote host closed the connection) 21:54:39 --- join: karswell (~user@87.114.135.1) joined #forth 22:16:12 --- quit: RodgerTheGreat (Quit: RodgerTheGreat) 22:26:12 --- quit: I440r (Quit: Leaving) 22:58:15 --- quit: Bahman (Quit: Ave atque vale) 23:08:37 --- quit: xyh (Remote host closed the connection) 23:34:51 --- quit: PoppaVic (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23:37:11 --- quit: joneshf-laptop (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23:37:21 --- join: joneshf-laptop (~joneshf@98.208.35.89) joined #forth 23:43:47 --- join: DKordic (~user@178-221-220-30.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs) joined #forth 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/14.11.29