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Just a bit puzzled why they went away too quickly 12:47:49 (first four colums being nybble and fifth being timing) 12:48:52 photo transistors or resistors couldnt have been that expensive during the homecomputer era. 12:50:38 (each column would be 2.5mm in width and each bit would be 2.5mm in height for data but half that for timing. Timing would just be then an alternating sequence of ones and zeros.) 12:52:56 that method would spare many from RSI and be rather popular when printing data out onto paper for handing around. 12:53:45 but alas that era is gone now. 13:29:37 --- quit: Zarutian (Quit: Zarutian) 13:30:30 --- quit: nighty^ (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke) 13:32:38 --- join: bigwexi (~quassel@pool-71-127-223-133.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) joined #forth 14:06:34 --- join: rixard (~rixard@90-229-190-197-no63.tbcn.telia.com) joined #forth 14:18:34 ciao 14:18:42 --- part: Mat4 left #forth 14:19:08 --- join: Mat4 (~claude@ip5b414c9f.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) joined #forth 14:19:15 --- part: Mat4 left #forth 14:21:03 --- quit: bluekelp (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 14:24:32 --- join: bluekelp (~bluekelp@2001:470:1:41:6172:48a4:1797:7da4) joined #forth 14:24:32 --- mode: ChanServ set +v bluekelp 14:37:46 --- quit: bigwexi (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.) 14:38:18 --- join: bigwexi (~quassel@pool-71-127-223-133.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) joined #forth 14:56:01 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 14:56:07 --- quit: true-grue (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15:15:32 --- quit: bigwexi (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.) 15:18:59 --- join: bigwexi (~quassel@pool-71-127-223-133.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) joined #forth 15:19:12 --- quit: bigwexi (Client Quit) 15:22:04 --- join: bigwexi (~quassel@pool-71-127-223-133.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) joined #forth 15:23:13 --- quit: bigwexi (Remote host closed the connection) 15:25:47 --- join: nighty^ (~nighty@hokuriku.rural-networks.com) joined #forth 15:29:15 --- join: joneshf-laptop (~joneshf@campus-017-118.ucdavis.edu) joined #forth 15:34:50 --- quit: lewis1711 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15:35:04 --- join: lewis1711 (~lewis@210.54.34.123) joined #forth 15:46:29 --- join: karswell` (~user@87.114.135.1) joined #forth 15:56:56 --- nick: karswell` -> karswell 16:00:22 --- quit: joneshf-laptop (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 16:03:34 --- join: Alikas (~androirc@188.162.229.162) joined #forth 16:04:54 Я здесь: Хабаровск, Россия 16:05:03 --- part: Alikas left #forth 16:07:31 how cute 16:08:29 --- join: saml_ (~saml@pool-71-190-3-251.nycmny.east.verizon.net) joined #forth 16:15:31 --- join: Zarutian (~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is) joined #forth 16:20:53 is general stack machine talk OT here? been reading Koopman, it's interesting stuff 16:38:43 it's probably ok 16:47:38 --- quit: nighty^ (Remote host closed the connection) 16:47:38 http://users.ece.cmu.edu/~koopman/stack_computers/contents.html 16:47:40 book looks great thanks 16:48:25 vanila: it really is. there's a great paper on second generation stack machines as well 16:48:26 http://www.eecg.toronto.edu/~laforest/Second-Generation_Stack_Computer_Architecture.pdf 16:48:54 still trying to get my head around some of the distinctions - like is a register machine with windowing not effectively a stack machine? 16:55:30 chuck moores green arrays have two memory registers in each cpu, it seems 16:56:11 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@67.164.37.196) joined #forth 16:59:25 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 17:00:15 --- quit: karswell (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17:01:26 --- join: karswell (~user@87.114.135.1) joined #forth 17:19:11 lewis1711: then there are belt machines. 17:24:42 what good stack based cpus are widely available these days? 17:26:57 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@67.164.37.196) joined #forth 17:39:10 ...belt machines? 17:49:46 bluekelp: I do not know about wide aviablility but Harris RTX 2010 design is ever popular with space missions. Rosetta for one has a few iirc. 17:50:48 DocPlatypus: The Mill is the first one that uses such architecture 17:51:02 ok, but what is it? 17:51:07 this is the first time I have even heard ofit 17:58:28 --- join: xyh (~xieyuheng@2001:250:3002:5550:6ea1:cc0f:bcb2:b187) joined #forth 18:01:51 --- quit: malyn (*.net *.split) 18:01:51 --- quit: yiyus (*.net *.split) 18:01:54 --- quit: Quozl` (*.net *.split) 18:01:56 --- quit: nox (*.net *.split) 18:01:57 --- quit: GHqUkHxNi (*.net *.split) 18:01:57 --- quit: ricky_ricardo (*.net *.split) 18:01:58 --- quit: proteusguy (*.net *.split) 18:01:59 --- quit: Hakkavelin (*.net *.split) 18:21:04 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 18:21:37 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@67.164.37.196) joined #forth 18:26:04 --- quit: mnemnion (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 18:31:20 join #concatenative 18:31:25 LOL whoops 18:32:28 DocPlatypus: http://millcomputing.com/docs/belt/ 18:33:10 great now I want to write a virtual belt machine 18:33:46 --- 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