00:00:00 --- log: started forth/14.10.23 00:06:26 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 00:19:27 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@ppp-110-168-229-156.revip5.asianet.co.th) joined #forth 00:33:01 --- join: bjorkintosh (~bjork@ip68-13-229-200.ok.ok.cox.net) joined #forth 00:40:41 --- quit: bjorkintosh (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 00:46:26 --- join: bjorkintosh (~bjork@ip68-13-229-200.ok.ok.cox.net) joined #forth 01:38:21 --- quit: samrat (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 02:23:50 --- quit: protist (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 02:32:22 --- join: true-grue (~grue@95-28-161-180.broadband.corbina.ru) joined #forth 02:37:53 --- join: joneshf-laptop (~joneshf@98.208.35.89) joined #forth 02:48:56 --- nick: Zag_ -> Zag 03:09:26 --- nick: FUZxxl_ -> FUZxxl 04:26:02 --- join: samrat (~samrat@49.244.28.193) joined #forth 04:30:31 --- quit: samrat (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 04:57:52 --- join: samrat (~samrat@49.244.28.193) joined #forth 05:35:53 --- join: xyh (~xieyuheng@125.94.36.130) joined #forth 05:43:06 --- join: Zarutian (~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is) joined #forth 05:50:42 --- join: ttmrichter_xm (~ttmrichte@113.57.247.135) joined #forth 06:12:26 --- quit: klltkr (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 06:15:12 --- join: klltkr (~klltkr@unaffiliated/klltkr) joined #forth 06:17:43 --- quit: DGASAU (Remote host closed the connection) 06:19:14 --- join: DGASAU (~user@p50993595.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 06:20:19 how module system get implemented in Forth ? a module system as a dictionary manager ? is it a wished feature ? 06:23:12 we were just talking about this in another channel. d.v.schorre wrote a 3-line module system. 06:25:02 another channel? 06:25:22 --- quit: DGASAU (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 06:25:31 * tangentstorm mostly hangs out in #learnprogramming 06:27:30 volume 2, issue 5, page 132 http://www.forth.org/fd/contents.html 06:27:37 (pg 14 in the actual pdf) 06:27:38 --- join: DGASAU (~user@p50993595.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 06:28:00 code in on top left of next page... 06:35:47 --- quit: samrat (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 06:38:40 xyh: it isn't implemented at all. 06:42:04 --- join: samrat (~samrat@49.244.28.193) joined #forth 06:46:26 --- quit: samrat (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 06:49:05 DGASAU: I am trying to learn some good features from other languages, and see if I could figure out a way to implement them in Forth :P 06:52:02 There's a paper after Leroy on module systems including implementation techniques for imperative languages of Algol family. 06:55:43 --- join: samrat (~samrat@49.244.28.193) joined #forth 07:04:19 --- quit: samrat (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 07:15:17 --- join: samrat (~samrat@49.244.28.193) joined #forth 07:33:13 --- quit: samrat (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 07:59:35 --- nick: C_Keen -> C-Keen 08:00:37 --- join: ehaliewicz (~user@50-0-50-37.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com) joined #forth 08:03:30 i would expect: ' TASK NFA @ TYPE to emit the word 'TASK' ... but it doesn't... 08:03:40 where did i go wrong? :) 08:03:57 (FIG forth) 08:07:03 oh hrm. TYPE expects two parameters in FIG 08:08:08 ID. prints the name 08:08:21 ' TASK NFA ID. 08:08:23 TASK OK 08:10:12 --- join: samrat (~samrat@49.244.88.131) joined #forth 08:10:27 --- join: FireFly (~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly) joined #forth 08:18:04 --- part: xyh left #forth 08:25:03 --- join: ttmrichter__xm (~ttmrichte@222.242.224.90) joined #forth 08:27:11 --- quit: ttmrichter_xm (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 08:31:00 --- quit: Zarutian (Quit: Zarutian) 08:37:56 --- quit: ehaliewicz (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 08:51:13 --- join: Zarutian (~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is) joined #forth 09:00:11 --- quit: ttmrichter__xm (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 09:29:10 --- join: dys (~user@2a01:1e8:e100:8296:21a:4dff:fe4e:273a) joined #forth 09:34:10 --- join: kumul (~mool@adsl-72-50-86-139.prtc.net) joined #forth 09:39:08 --- join: nighty^ (~nighty@hokuriku.rural-networks.com) joined #forth 10:22:14 --- join: ehaliewicz (~user@c-67-188-3-109.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 10:25:31 --- quit: ehaliewicz (Remote host closed the connection) 10:47:46 --- quit: armour (Quit: Leaving) 11:26:51 --- quit: joneshf-laptop (Remote host closed the connection) 11:56:51 --- quit: nighty^_ (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 11:57:52 --- join: nighty^_ (~nighty@static-68-179-124-161.ptr.terago.net) joined #forth 11:58:58 --- join: mark4 (~mark4@cpe-68-203-183-77.tx.res.rr.com) joined #forth 12:18:24 --- quit: samrat (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 12:44:23 --- join: kumool (~mool@adsl-72-50-86-146.prtc.net) joined #forth 12:48:02 --- quit: kumul (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 13:36:22 tangentstorm, you didn't tell him about good features from the modulas? 14:08:55 * Zarutian been following the FTDI fiasco 14:15:08 has anyone else here heard about it? 14:16:32 so, anyone know of good replacements for USB to serial chips? 14:23:41 --- join: joneshf-laptop (~joneshf@campus-022-077.ucdavis.edu) joined #forth 14:56:25 --- quit: true-grue (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15:17:40 --- join: robdubya (~robdubya@108-218-139-74.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) joined #forth 15:31:57 --- quit: nighty^ (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke) 16:05:05 Zarutian: only affects you if you use their software, I think... aren't those devices standard in how they translate USB to serial? 16:05:14 i.e. isn't there a "serial port class"? 16:24:19 yes but the generic driver for serial port class is usually pretty badly implemented 16:26:19 what I would like to see is USB-IF setting aside one Vendor Id and Product Id pair where the driver must load openfirmware tokenized code or equiv from the device and interpret that. 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