00:00:00 --- log: started forth/14.09.22 00:02:32 --- quit: pgomes (Quit: Leaving) 00:09:09 --- quit: DGASAU (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00:10:08 --- join: DGASAU (~user@p50993595.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 00:27:01 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00:35:59 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@180.183.41.101) joined #forth 00:37:03 --- join: armour (~armour@190.171.106.232) joined #forth 00:41:34 --- join: pgomes (d4b9b9a4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.212.185.185.164) joined #forth 01:32:47 --- quit: bluekelp (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 01:36:35 --- join: bluekelp (~bluekelp@2001:470:1:41:e1ad:65e6:6585:751d) joined #forth 01:36:40 --- mode: ChanServ set +v bluekelp 01:51:54 --- join: nighty^ (~nighty@hokuriku.rural-networks.com) joined #forth 02:00:10 "or better yet, refactor your algorithm so that mutal recurison is not required lol" is one of the most idiotic advices one can give. 02:00:31 In many cases this "refactoring" complicates the code so that it becomes unreadable. 02:33:59 --- quit: ErhardtMundt (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 02:36:52 --- join: ErhardtMundt (~quassel@93-43-71-119.ip90.fastwebnet.it) joined #forth 02:51:40 --- join: ErhardtTheWhite (~quassel@93-43-71-119.ip90.fastwebnet.it) joined #forth 02:53:21 --- quit: ErhardtMundt (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 03:38:20 --- join: zlrth (~user@c-71-206-216-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined #forth 03:57:22 --- join: protist (~javery@89.225.69.111.dynamic.snap.net.nz) joined #forth 04:50:32 --- quit: mr-foobar (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 04:59:32 --- join: Zarutian (~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is) joined #forth 05:02:22 --- quit: beretta (Quit: Leaving) 05:03:57 --- join: mr-foobar (~mucker@202.65.142.66) joined #forth 05:07:35 --- quit: mr-foobar (Client Quit) 05:16:02 --- quit: zlrth (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 06:16:58 --- join: impomatic_ (~digital_w@84.93.215.217) joined #forth 06:19:04 --- join: mr-foobar (~mucker@49.206.63.113) joined #forth 06:23:10 --- quit: armour (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 07:19:00 --- join: armour (~armour@130.113.26.186.static.intelnet.net.gt) joined #forth 07:27:42 --- quit: DGASAU (Remote host closed the connection) 07:29:34 --- join: DGASAU (~user@p50993595.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 07:42:12 --- quit: proteusguy (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07:50:31 --- join: true-grue (~grue@95-27-148-196.broadband.corbina.ru) joined #forth 08:21:19 --- quit: karswell` (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08:25:27 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@ppp-110-168-229-89.revip5.asianet.co.th) joined #forth 08:30:33 --- quit: protist (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 08:41:47 --- quit: DGASAU (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 08:46:02 --- join: DGASAU (~user@p50993595.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 09:09:55 --- quit: armour (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 09:10:35 --- join: xyh (~xieyuheng@2001:250:3002:5550:6ea1:cc0f:bcb2:b187) joined #forth 09:12:30 --- quit: DGASAU (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 09:15:37 --- join: DGASAU (~user@p50993595.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 09:21:12 --- join: armour (~armour@130.113.26.186.static.intelnet.net.gt) joined #forth 09:31:53 --- quit: pgomes (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) 09:33:45 --- quit: Zarutian (Quit: Zarutian) 09:52:49 --- join: armour_ (~armour@186.26.113.130) joined #forth 09:55:57 --- quit: armour (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 09:56:37 --- quit: DGASAU (Remote host closed the connection) 09:58:51 --- join: DGASAU (~user@p50993595.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 10:13:54 --- quit: DGASAU (Remote host closed the connection) 10:16:21 --- join: DGASAU (~user@p50993595.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 10:19:17 --- join: Zarutian (~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is) joined #forth 10:19:39 --- quit: Zarutian (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10:19:57 --- join: Zarutian (~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is) joined #forth 10:22:51 there are the "more Forth OSes" for rPi ? 10:26:06 *where 10:34:01 pijforth is one. the others might be more generic ARM forths 10:34:33 pijforth is on github, i haven't checked out any others yet 10:40:40 --- quit: xyh (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 10:41:35 --- join: xyh (~xieyuheng@2001:250:3002:5550:6ea1:cc0f:bcb2:b187) joined #forth 10:43:24 pijforth ? can not find it on github 10:44:56 hmm, let me find a link 10:46:19 https://github.com/organix/pijFORTHos 10:46:27 apologies - i had the name slightly wrong 10:46:55 i have not yet gotten it working but it "looks" good :) 10:47:08 (need a usb-serial cable and haven't dug one out yet) 10:47:53 thx :) 10:51:10 --- quit: nighty^__ (Remote host closed the connection) 10:55:00 --- join: nighty^_ (~nighty@static-68-179-124-161.ptr.terago.net) joined #forth 11:01:22 enjoy - and please let me know how it works for you. i don't like that the start.elf bootloader init file is 2+ mb but otherwise it seems a legit bare metal forth 12:07:07 --- quit: impomatic_ (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 12:12:21 --- part: xyh left #forth 12:33:41 --- join: diginet (~diginet@107.170.146.29) joined #forth 12:34:04 has anyone have designed a stack machine where the stacks are implemented with bidirectional shift registers instead of a stack pointer? 12:41:08 --- quit: armour_ (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 12:42:12 --- join: armour_ (~armour@130.113.26.186.static.intelnet.net.gt) joined #forth 13:03:47 --- quit: armour_ (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 13:13:58 --- join: armour_ (~armour@130.113.26.186.static.intelnet.net.gt) joined #forth 13:26:06 --- quit: nighty^ (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke) 13:27:51 diginet: why? I think most dual stack machines just use seperate memories for the data and return stacks because it is easier to implement that way and cheaper 13:41:34 --- quit: armour_ (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 13:48:32 --- join: armour_ (~armour@130.113.26.186.static.intelnet.net.gt) joined #forth 13:49:53 --- quit: true-grue (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14:44:57 Zarutian: I was just curious 15:04:36 --- join: newcup (newcup@peruna.fi) joined #forth 17:12:34 bluekelp xyh: I'll be trying it out this weekened. 17:32:40 --- join: xyh (~xieyuheng@2001:250:3002:5550:6ea1:cc0f:bcb2:b187) joined #forth 18:12:22 --- quit: xyh (Remote host closed the connection) 18:31:58 --- join: Kumool (~Kumool@adsl-72-50-85-26.prtc.net) joined #forth 18:49:34 ttmrichter: looks like i am wrong, there're so many CNC machine(or just cutting machine) 18:49:55 but i am not sure if they could produced a stirling engine for me 18:58:06 stirling engine? the one that runs on heat difference? 19:08:16 Zarutian: yes 19:09:25 Zarutian: using this could get more energy from the sun compare to solar power 19:10:30 isnt that basicly two cylenders traditionally 90° apart from each other. Each having a piston? And there are some heat exchange fluid involved that flows between the two. 19:11:21 well, there're many designs 19:11:33 * Zarutian hasnt looked at stirling engines in a while 19:11:39 some models are more effeicient 19:12:28 so, solar heated stirling engines usually have the 'hot' piston/part at a focal point of a parabolic mirror that tracks the sun, yes? 19:15:13 well, there're two concepts there 19:15:21 one use parabolic mirror arrar 19:15:25 array 19:15:44 the other use fresnel lens(huge one), you could find some video on youtube 19:17:03 I have seen images and videos of fresnel lenses. Four were used in an solar sintering device some artist used in Shahara to sinter together silical sand into keramic things iirc. 19:18:00 I also have heard of people using much smaller fresnel lenses to gather more light onto photovoltaic solar cells. 19:20:20 but usually in the context of meshnet repeater nodes that require a bit more power than a small photovoltaic solar cell array could provide by itself. (The fresnel lense was basicly a cheapish upgrade they made) 19:23:26 heck, I read about a place in Alaska that had a few parabolic mirror based stirling engines that provided both electricity and hot water for the house. 19:29:17 Zarutian: yes fresnel lenz are popular recently in photovoltaic solor units 19:30:27 Zarutian: the fresnel len's problem is you cant scala quickly 19:30:37 while you could do that by using mirror array 19:31:52 but fresnel lenz are suitable for people like me, 19:32:25 its small, beside, it focus the energy below, so you dont worry about the melted material flow down 19:36:36 Zarutian: and there're many solar heat power station listed on wikipedia, some are reached million Kilo Watts 19:52:17 --- quit: Zarutian (Quit: Zarutian) 20:15:10 --- quit: armour_ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 20:55:49 --- quit: Kumool (Quit: Leaving) 21:47:34 --- join: xyh (~xieyuheng@2001:250:3002:5550:6ea1:cc0f:bcb2:b187) joined #forth 21:50:51 --- quit: mr-foobar (Quit: Leaving...) 21:55:33 --- join: ehaliewicz (~user@50-0-50-37.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) joined #forth 21:59:16 --- quit: xyh (Remote host closed the connection) 21:59:42 --- join: beretta (~beretta@cpe-74-135-127-101.swo.res.rr.com) joined #forth 22:08:02 --- quit: bbloom_ (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 22:53:44 --- join: armour_ (~armour@130.113.26.186.static.intelnet.net.gt) joined #forth 22:59:12 --- join: mr-foobar (~mucker@49.205.95.48) joined #forth 23:27:00 --- join: bbloom (~bbloom@cpe-68-175-72-82.nyc.res.rr.com) joined #forth 23:49:09 --- join: impomatic_ (~chatzilla@37.152.227.150) joined #forth 23:50:09 --- join: pgomes (d4b9b9a4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.212.185.185.164) joined #forth 23:50:51 --- quit: impomatic (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 23:51:04 --- nick: impomatic_ -> impomatic 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/14.09.22