00:00:00 --- log: started forth/14.09.19 00:26:07 --- join: dys (~user@2a01:1e8:e100:8296:21a:4dff:fe4e:273a) joined #forth 00:51:41 --- quit: DGASAU (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00:52:42 --- join: DGASAU (~user@p50993595.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 01:00:57 --- quit: DGASAU (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01:01:35 --- quit: Quozl`_ (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 01:02:23 --- join: DGASAU (~user@p50993595.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 01:02:48 --- join: Quozl` (~quozl@activation.laptop.org) joined #forth 01:03:53 --- quit: DGASAU (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01:05:34 --- join: DGASAU (~user@p50993595.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 02:34:00 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@ppp-110-168-229-197.revip5.asianet.co.th) joined #forth 02:47:45 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 03:04:28 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@ppp-110-168-229-197.revip5.asianet.co.th) joined #forth 03:25:40 --- quit: DGASAU (Read error: Connection reset 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Connection reset by peer) 05:51:06 --- join: mr-foobar (~mucker@202.65.142.66) joined #forth 05:51:30 head of git repo does not compile 05:51:39 I believe some files are missing 05:51:49 why not use the package distributed with your system? 05:52:03 I prefer source :P 05:52:05 :P 05:52:24 and I believe its too far behind 05:52:53 --- quit: Zarutian (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05:53:35 --- join: Zarutian (~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is) joined #forth 05:54:20 thanks anyway :) 05:54:56 --- quit: mr-foobar (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05:55:22 --- join: mr-foobar (~mucker@202.65.142.66) joined #forth 05:55:44 is it cross compilable via a meta-compiler ? 05:56:47 --- quit: mr-foobar (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05:57:13 --- join: mr-foobar (~mucker@202.65.142.66) joined #forth 05:59:51 --- quit: eschulte (Quit: leaving) 06:00:23 --- quit: ErhardtMundt (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 06:16:13 --- quit: DGASAU (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06:17:17 --- 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06:54:31 --- quit: DGASAU`` (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06:55:27 --- join: DGASAU`` (~user@p50993595.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 07:42:38 --- quit: clog (^C) 07:42:38 --- log: stopped forth/14.09.19 07:42:49 --- log: started forth/14.09.19 07:42:49 --- join: clog (~nef@bespin.org) joined #forth 07:42:49 --- topic: 'Forth Programming | logged by clog at http://bit.ly/91toWN | isforth.com | forthfreak.net | http://forthworks.com/standards/DPANS/ | www.greenarraychips.com' 07:42:49 --- topic: set by I440r!~mark4@cpe-192-136-220-10.tx.res.rr.com on [Thu Jan 02 15:51:09 2014] 07:42:49 --- names: list (clog DGASAU zlrth Zarutian nighty^ pgomes proteusguy Quozl` dys joneshf-laptop_ impomatic KipIngram_ danfinch nox @I440r aksatac___ MrMobius es_ karswell 7YUAAQ8GP joneshf dch crc_ cataska TodPunk Adeon newcup koisoke tangentstorm carc_00 +bluekelp dzho Zag yiyus_ enthos krainboltgreene malyn Anarch ttmrichter yunfan_ irsol nighty^__ C-Keen nisstyre rprimus djinni bjorkintosh 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(~user@c-67-188-3-109.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 11:40:58 --- join: DGASAU (~user@p50993595.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 11:49:33 --- join: xyh (~xieyuheng@2001:250:3002:5550:6ea1:cc0f:bcb2:b187) joined #forth 12:07:27 --- quit: Zarutian (Quit: Zarutian) 12:11:35 --- quit: xyh (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 12:17:41 --- join: xyh (~xieyuheng@2001:250:3002:5550:6ea1:cc0f:bcb2:b187) joined #forth 12:26:31 --- quit: xyh (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 12:32:34 --- join: Mat3 (~Mat@91.65.76.247) joined #forth 12:32:38 hello 12:32:56 hi 12:33:27 hi dzho 12:33:40 hi everyone 12:37:00 howdy alls 12:37:38 was looking at the raspberri pi forth yesterday and noticed the start.elf (broadcom binary init the gpu/etc) is huge! anyone know of an alternative? 12:37:57 for a bare-metal forth i don't need much gpu, at the moment 12:43:18 I think the problem is that the GPU act as main CPU at start up of the Raspberri Pi and these omnious GPU blob is simply a bootloader which is needed for initializing the second ARM CPU 12:45:58 ah - i didn't know what about the boot sequence (gpu as primary). ugh. 12:46:26 that said, there look to be at least a couple of free ARM forths out there. 12:46:27 i mean it's not like space on the sd card is scarce - but i dislike the idea of 2+mb of extra code that i didn't write being there 12:47:13 --- join: xyh (~xieyuheng@2001:250:3002:5550:6ea1:cc0f:bcb2:b187) joined #forth 12:50:11 well, I think the GPU is generally enough to be used as main CPU alone (obvously no one seem to use it that way at current). The only problem is to init this chip to its max. clock frequency 12:53:02 so if you want a Forth without these blob code one for the *main* CPU 12:53:33 (graphic work is then a problem) 12:56:52 --- quit: xyh (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 13:04:17 --- join: xyh (~xieyuheng@2001:250:3002:5550:6ea1:cc0f:bcb2:b187) joined #forth 13:05:20 --- quit: nighty^ (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke) 13:08:19 --- quit: irsol (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 13:09:01 --- join: irsol (~irsol@unaffiliated/contempt) joined #forth 13:17:24 --- quit: xyh (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 13:24:34 --- join: xyh (~xieyuheng@2001:250:3002:5550:6ea1:cc0f:bcb2:b187) joined #forth 13:35:30 --- quit: zlrth (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 13:41:16 for now i don't need/want graphics. bc ultimately i'll port it to another cheaper cpu/board 13:41:40 i'll try tonight and see if i can get teh serial console working. hopefully if it works i can figure out why my ARM forth wasn't working 13:42:05 tho it doesn't look like the rpi is thumb and that's where i started to run into issues (and moving words from flash into ram) 13:49:07 it is an ARM11 cpu, so no Thumb if I remember correctly 13:54:34 --- join: Zarutian (~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is) joined #forth 15:09:59 --- quit: ehaliewicz (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 15:14:13 --- quit: Mat3 (Quit: Verlassend) 16:14:41 --- quit: DGASAU (Remote host closed the connection) 16:17:14 --- join: DGASAU (~user@p50993595.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 16:49:26 --- join: zlrth (~user@c-71-206-216-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined #forth 17:17:48 --- quit: zlrth (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 17:30:11 --- part: xyh left #forth 18:14:19 --- join: zlrth (~user@c-71-206-216-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined #forth 18:31:56 --- quit: Zarutian (Quit: Zarutian) 19:00:00 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 19:13:00 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@ppp-110-168-229-197.revip5.asianet.co.th) joined #forth 19:16:32 --- quit: nisstyre (Quit: WeeChat 1.0) 19:16:49 --- join: nisstyre (yourstruly@2400:8900::f03c:91ff:fe69:7f3d) joined #forth 19:30:36 --- quit: zlrth (Remote host closed the connection) 19:35:26 --- join: zlrth (~user@c-71-206-216-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined #forth 19:40:14 --- quit: nisstyre (Quit: WeeChat 1.0) 19:41:04 --- join: nisstyre (yourstruly@2400:8900::f03c:91ff:fe69:7f3d) joined #forth 19:41:50 --- quit: nisstyre (Changing host) 19:41:50 --- join: nisstyre (yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre) joined #forth 19:43:32 --- join: Tod-Autojoined (~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined #forth 19:44:38 --- quit: TodPunk (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19:56:15 --- quit: Tod-Autojoined (Quit: This is me, signing off. 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