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These are defined on lines 137-161 13:06:18 it's not as flexible as what I use in Retro (I don't think it supports nesting, and it doesn't work outside a colon definition) 13:25:02 --- join: kumul (~mool@adsl-64-237-237-158.prtc.net) joined #forth 13:30:27 --- join: Mat3 (~Mat@91.65.76.247) joined #forth 13:34:57 crc: I think schulte has had by example not such limited quotations in mind 13:36:49 --- quit: mark4_ (Remote host closed the connection) 13:37:48 and nested quotes likely requires some arcane, gforth dependent hack because as I remember it can't be assumed that all definations have a xt 13:38:53 anyhow, it would be best to ask the maintainers for there opinion 13:48:50 --- quit: mr-foobar (Quit: Leaving...) 13:49:36 --- quit: true-grue (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13:51:02 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 14:03:16 --- join: vsg1990 (~vsg1990@cpe-67-241-148-119.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined #forth 14:08:53 --- quit: vsg1990 (Quit: Leaving) 14:25:03 --- quit: Bahman (Quit: Ave atque vale) 14:26:00 --- quit: bbloom (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 14:54:25 --- join: bbloom (~bbloom@cpe-68-173-7-82.nyc.res.rr.com) joined #forth 15:05:46 --- quit: Mat3 (Quit: Verlassend) 15:59:47 --- quit: _schulte_ (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 16:00:07 --- join: _schulte_ (~eschulte@cpe-24-58-244-81.twcny.res.rr.com) joined #forth 16:36:09 --- quit: nighty-_ (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke) 16:58:23 --- quit: joneshf-laptop (Remote host closed the connection) 18:38:41 --- quit: kumul (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 18:41:57 --- quit: fantazo (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 19:14:14 --- join: saml_ (~saml@pool-71-190-8-37.nycmny.east.verizon.net) joined #forth 19:19:17 --- quit: Zarutian (Quit: Zarutian) 19:34:12 --- join: kumul (~mool@adsl-64-237-239-158.prtc.net) joined #forth 19:35:08 --- join: kumool (~mool@adsl-64-237-239-85.prtc.net) joined #forth 19:39:21 --- quit: kumul (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 19:51:57 --- quit: MrMobius (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19:58:28 --- quit: kumool (Quit: Leaving) 20:07:05 --- join: xyh (~xieyuheng@2001:250:3002:5550:6ea1:cc0f:bcb2:b187) joined #forth 20:18:20 --- quit: cataska (Remote host closed the connection) 20:20:11 --- join: vsg1990 (~vsg1990@cpe-67-241-148-119.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined #forth 20:22:14 --- join: cataska (~cataska@118-163-69-1.HINET-IP.hinet.net) joined #forth 20:35:14 --- quit: cataska (Remote host closed the connection) 20:35:45 --- join: cataska (~cataska@118-163-69-1.HINET-IP.hinet.net) joined #forth 20:39:25 crc: could retro support to split the dict into mutable and immutable parts? 20:40:53 --- join: MrMobius (~Joey@c-98-223-189-47.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined #forth 20:46:40 Any Forth could be made to do that, yunfan. 20:49:13 ttmrichter: i know it could be done by some coding, i just ask him if it have already support that :] 20:49:47 ttmrichter: i think if i use forth as an embeding lang for my purpose, a immutable dictional parts is required 20:52:59 If you put it into an MCU, you can write-protect the dictionary that should be immutable I guess. 20:53:15 Won't stop people from redefining words, but I'm not sure you SHOULD there. 20:59:39 but i need the immutable part to be modifyable 21:00:07 like before i handle the control to user scripts, i set the current diction part to immutable 21:01:01 --- join: mr-foobar (~mucker@49.206.19.125) joined #forth 21:22:51 --- quit: saml_ (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 21:25:45 yunfan: In the STM32 (and STM8, for that matter) lines you can turn write protection on and off. 21:26:03 Unless you use the permanent option, of course. Then the Flash is burned forever. 21:47:13 ttmrichter: okay got it. but i think i might use it on x86 server 21:51:07 Ah, that's a different issue. 21:51:24 The x86 world has very poor selection of peripherals and capabilities. 22:24:33 so i need a software solution for this 22:29:08 --- quit: vsg1990 (Quit: Leaving) 22:29:21 Well, if you want to be really tricky you can protect the pages the dictionary is in I guess. 22:29:43 The (modern) x86 has an MMU that permits several different kinds of protection. 22:30:49 if words compiled into the dictionary as single-linked-list, and words are adjoining to each other, how you want to change part of the dictionary ?? 22:45:12 --- join: fantazo (~fantazo@089144218057.atnat0027.highway.a1.net) joined #forth 23:12:20 --- quit: dys (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 23:13:45 --- quit: nisstyre (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 23:15:51 --- join: nisstyre (yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre) joined #forth 23:25:15 --- quit: MrMobius (Disconnected by services) 23:25:28 --- join: MrM0bius (~Joey@c-98-223-189-47.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined #forth 23:26:24 --- join: protist (~javery@158.225.69.111.dynamic.snap.net.nz) joined #forth 23:42:49 --- quit: xyh (Remote host closed the connection) 23:56:04 --- join: dys (~user@2a01:1e8:e100:8296:21a:4dff:fe4e:273a) joined #forth 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/14.08.28