00:00:00 --- log: started forth/14.07.20 00:51:01 --- join: ucfan (uid37622@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jgpvrctuofqbbrxx) joined #forth 01:50:43 --- join: true-grue (~grue@95-25-55-26.broadband.corbina.ru) joined #forth 02:50:04 --- join: protist (~protist@132.225.69.111.dynamic.snap.net.nz) joined #forth 03:11:43 --- join: tangentstorm (~michal@108-218-151-22.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined #forth 03:23:39 --- part: Twey left #forth 03:29:20 --- quit: ucfan (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) 04:35:12 --- join: gr8 (~gr8@dslb-188-097-006-062.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 04:36:06 hi. I remember a Forth OS implementation that claimed to run only from CPU cache, without ever touching the RAM. I can't find it. do you know such one? 04:50:45 That sounds pretty cool. 04:53:57 gr8: The only Forth OS I know is called ForthOS. Let me see if it still exists out there. 04:54:21 ForthOS still exists (and works, actually ;) 04:54:30 but it's not what I meant 04:55:00 It's small enough to run in a modern CPU's cache, IIRC. 04:55:14 (It's been a long time since I've looked at it.) 04:56:01 uhm well I *think* it's not what I meant 05:02:28 Haha, running in CPU cache. #justforththings 05:04:15 would be pretty cool given that modern processor have several Megabytes of cache ... you could then let applications use the RAM without breaking the system 05:12:35 gr8: My Forth system in development so far fits in 13KB of memory. 05:13:02 When it gets done (complete with pre-emptive tasking and dictionary trees) it will probably still fit in 16KB (albeit only just). 05:13:15 That's of course only the language kernel: no applications. 05:13:24 ttmrichter: oh you are developing a forth OS? do you have a project site for that? 05:13:49 gr8: Not a Forth OS. A bare-metal Forth for embedded systems (Cortex-M MCUs for now). 05:14:09 And no, no project site. I don't do social coding. It will be released under WTFPL when it's ready to actually be called a Forth. 05:14:29 well but a bare-metal software system is just an operating system, right? ;) 05:14:30 I'm not the kind of person that litters his world with ¼-completed projects. 05:14:31 :) 05:14:41 Well, I wouldn't call it an OS. I'd call it an executive. 05:14:48 lol 05:14:51 An OS would do more resource management than I'm willing to provide. 05:15:14 --- quit: true-grue (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05:15:23 regarding social coding, you could take a look at "The cathedral and the bazaar" 05:16:23 I have. 05:16:34 Then I look at the shit that's in the bazaar and decide I like cathedrals better. 05:16:50 It will be released when it is in usable shape and not a moment earlier. 05:16:56 When it goes 1.0 it goes out to be used. 05:17:03 No 0.9 "releases" ever. 05:17:50 This is the first target board: http://i.imgur.com/D9FKXnt.jpg 05:18:26 v1.0 will support that board and that board alone. From there, however, it will be trivial to port to an STM32F1/F2/F3/F4. 05:18:52 Basically ever STM32 board I have will be supported in rapid minor increments after 1.0. 05:19:02 Then I'll be porting the language core to an STM8. 05:19:10 That will be v2.0. 05:37:11 --- join: xyh (~user@222.58.65.92) joined #forth 07:05:26 --- quit: DGASAU (Remote host closed the connection) 07:06:34 --- join: DGASAU (~user@p50993595.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 07:07:10 --- quit: protist (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 07:47:58 --- join: true-grue (~grue@95-25-55-26.broadband.corbina.ru) joined #forth 08:37:45 --- join: kumul (~mool@72.50.86.0) joined #forth 08:46:09 --- quit: xyh (Remote host closed the connection) 09:16:45 --- join: dto (~user@pool-100-0-107-54.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) joined #forth 09:16:53 anyone seen RodgerTheGreat 10:27:39 --- quit: DGASAU (Remote host closed the connection) 10:29:01 --- join: DGASAU (~user@p50993595.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 10:40:22 --- join: MrMobius (~Joey@c-71-206-218-187.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined #forth 10:52:44 --- join: dkordic (~danilo@178-221-255-14.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs) joined #forth 10:57:26 --- part: gr8 left #forth 11:00:26 --- quit: MrMobius (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 11:02:32 --- join: MrMobius (~Joey@c-71-206-218-187.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined #forth 11:18:35 --- quit: MrMobius (Disconnected by services) 11:18:47 --- join: MrM0bius (~Joey@c-71-206-218-187.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined #forth 11:29:36 --- nick: MrM0bius -> MrMobius 11:40:34 --- join: xyh (~user@222.58.65.92) joined #forth 12:34:50 --- join: Zarutian (~zarutian@194-144-84-110.du.xdsl.is) joined #forth 12:39:36 --- quit: xyh (Remote host closed the connection) 13:00:00 --- quit: MrMobius (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 13:06:36 --- quit: rixard (Quit: All your base are belong to us!) 13:25:52 --- join: MrMobius (~Joey@c-71-206-218-187.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined #forth 13:49:59 --- quit: MrMobius (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 13:58:25 --- join: MrMobius (~Joey@178.sub-70-198-193.myvzw.com) joined #forth 13:58:32 --- quit: true-grue (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14:30:41 --- quit: MrMobius (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 14:31:52 --- join: MrMobius (~Joey@178.sub-70-198-193.myvzw.com) joined #forth 14:43:12 --- join: saml_ (~saml@pool-71-190-5-241.nycmny.east.verizon.net) joined #forth 14:44:54 --- quit: DGASAU (Remote host closed the connection) 14:46:13 --- join: DGASAU (~user@p50993595.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 15:08:41 nay, not in quite some time 15:15:21 --- quit: DGASAU (Remote host closed the connection) 15:16:56 --- join: DGASAU (~user@p50993595.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 15:21:09 --- quit: estevocastro (Remote host closed the connection) 15:21:45 --- join: estevocastro (~estevocas@95.85.29.193) joined #forth 15:56:52 --- quit: TodPunk (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16:09:31 --- quit: kumul (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 17:05:17 --- join: kumul (~mool@adsl-72-50-85-64.prtc.net) joined #forth 17:14:06 --- quit: MrMobius (Disconnected by services) 17:14:18 --- join: MrM0bius (~Joey@c-71-206-218-187.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined #forth 17:20:04 --- quit: kumul (Quit: Leaving) 17:35:23 --- quit: saml_ (Quit: Leaving) 17:40:18 --- join: TodPunk (~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined #forth 17:41:07 --- quit: MrM0bius (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17:42:55 --- join: MrMobius (~Joey@c-71-206-218-187.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined #forth 18:02:07 --- quit: MrMobius (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 18:47:55 --- quit: Zarutian (Quit: Zarutian) 19:06:02 --- quit: dto (Remote host closed the connection) 20:35:15 --- quit: karswell (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20:49:50 --- join: kumul (~mool@72.50.85.0) joined #forth 22:48:51 --- quit: irsol (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 23:17:29 --- join: irsol (~irsol@unaffiliated/contempt) joined #forth 23:57:09 --- join: lewis1711 (~lewis@121-72-63-101.dsl.telstraclear.net) joined #forth 23:59:11 is there a way to check for compliance to the standard in gforth or pforth? 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/14.07.20