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Just a quick question. Does anyone know of an Forth done for the SNES? 11:35:58 --- quit: MrMobius (*.net *.split) 11:45:41 --- quit: xyh (Remote host closed the connection) 11:50:47 --- join: MrMobius (~Joey@h144.16.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined #forth 12:02:28 --- quit: MrMobius (*.net *.split) 13:13:55 --- join: impomatic (~chatzilla@76.70.208.46.dyn.plus.net) joined #forth 13:23:35 --- quit: danfinch (Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1) 13:41:54 --- join: rixard (~rixard@90-229-190-197-no63.tbcn.telia.com) joined #forth 13:44:37 --- join: scott0070 (~scott@76.18.190.51) joined #forth 13:45:05 --- part: scott0070 left #forth 13:52:27 --- quit: true-grue (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14:01:37 --- join: MrMobius (~Joey@69.40.16.144) joined #forth 14:03:23 --- quit: MrMobius (Client Quit) 14:04:26 --- join: MrMobius (~Joey@h144.16.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined #forth 14:13:32 --- join: ErhardtTheWhite (~quassel@93.43.168.8) joined #forth 14:13:42 --- quit: ErhardtMundt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14:27:09 --- quit: Zarutian (Quit: Zarutian) 15:22:36 --- join: daowee (~daowee@m80-170-29-87.cust.tele2.se) joined #forth 16:06:20 --- quit: karswell (Remote host closed the connection) 16:07:13 --- join: karswell` (~user@84.93.50.58) joined #forth 16:10:29 --- quit: nighty^ (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke) 16:18:38 --- join: Zarutian (~zarutian@194-144-84-110.du.xdsl.is) joined #forth 17:14:17 --- join: ASau (~user@46.115.172.29) joined #forth 17:50:22 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 17:51:59 --- quit: ucfan (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 18:10:07 --- join: saml_ (~saml@71.190.5.241) joined #forth 18:15:06 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-98-210-219-91.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 18:54:54 --- join: kumul (~mool@adsl-72-50-86-64.prtc.net) joined #forth 18:59:39 --- quit: Zarutian (Quit: Zarutian) 20:29:14 --- quit: joneshf-laptop (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20:30:05 --- quit: karswell` (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 20:31:19 --- join: joneshf-laptop (~joneshf@98.255.30.38) joined #forth 21:04:34 --- quit: mnemnion (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21:06:53 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@98.210.219.91) joined #forth 22:00:50 --- quit: saml_ (Quit: Leaving) 22:03:19 --- join: ucfan (~ucfan@220-136-114-93.dynamic.hinet.net) joined #forth 22:07:22 --- quit: ucfan (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22:44:02 hrm. i rememeber seeing some exploit in super mario brothers that was able to reprogram the original NES... 22:44:36 --- join: ucfan (~ucfan@220-136-114-93.dynamic.hinet.net) joined #forth 22:45:36 dunno of anything for SNES though :/ 22:56:12 Would there be such a thing as "Forth on ARM"? 22:57:45 yeah, /that/ is much easier to come by. 22:58:14 https://www.google.com/search?q=ARM+forth turns up a whole selection 23:01:13 I guess it just didn't seem that cohesive. 23:01:16 Is that common? 23:01:50 not sure what you mean 23:03:14 I guess I expected a fortharm.org or whatever when I googled it, instead of a random smattering of forum posts, so I figured maybe the question "Forth on arm" was a bad one. 23:03:46 Sorry, I'm still trying to figure out how to approach forth as a real environment. 23:06:44 well part of the thing is there's not really any 'one true forth'... the language is small enough that it's no big deal to just make your own. 23:08:16 when i do the search i see pygmy forth, coreforth, mbed forth (maybe?), pforth... 23:08:31 each of those is its own little forth system. 23:09:22 also, i think there are at least 2 different regular members of this channel working on forths for the arm... but i don't have any links :/ 23:09:40 * tangentstorm also suspects that retro runs on the arm... 23:11:09 looks like it. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~crc-x/retro-language/retro/files/head:/vm/embedded/arm/mbed/ 23:11:21 * tangentstorm looks up what this mbed thing is. 23:12:07 oh like a little dev board. arduino-like, but arm-based instead of avr: https://mbed.org/ 23:12:11 neat 23:13:15 Ah 23:13:27 So they've all been ported to work on ARM then (presumably) 23:18:56 you really only need a handful of core words... eforth, retro, and colorforth all get by with around 30 primitives 23:19:12 and everything else is built up from there, so it's not too hard to port. 23:21:00 Gotcha. 23:22:05 As someone with a copy of Starting Forth on my desk, who has built a simple forth interpreter, but wants to get into forth seriously which of those should I be investigating? 23:24:04 couldn't say. most of my experience is with retro. it deviates in many ways from ansi forth and uses a virtual machine as an abstraction layer from the main hardware. it's really nice. 23:24:28 Sounds pretty good, what's the sacrifice for doing that? 23:26:14 hrm.. i guess just that you're a little bit removed from raw machine code? i suppose that's true of all forths... retro's vm is pretty much what you'd find in any forth's inner interpreter. 23:26:57 Any noticeable speed changes? 23:27:00 but i guess it sacrifices access to raw hardware in exchange for some nice portable 'virtual hardware' abstractions 23:27:25 http://games.tangentcode.com/mineswpr/ 23:27:37 ^ this entire game is a retro prompt. 23:28:05 it's fast enough for me running in javascript. i don't know what your needs are. 23:28:26 (type 'q' and it'll quit the game take you down into retro proper) 23:28:29 That's really freaking cool. 23:28:42 tangentstorm: Thanks for the details! 23:28:44 scrolling isn't implemented, so just type 'clear' to clear the screen. 23:28:46 ty :) 23:42:32 --- quit: kumul (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23:56:35 --- join: true-grue (~grue@128-68-208-117.broadband.corbina.ru) joined #forth 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/14.07.11