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connection) 02:53:53 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-98-210-219-91.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 02:58:12 --- quit: mnemnion (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 03:41:01 --- join: xyh (~user@121.33.190.152) joined #forth 03:43:34 --- join: croaker (ad3cced5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.60.206.213) joined #forth 03:43:44 whats best way to learn forth? 03:44:57 program in it 03:45:11 take a modern forth and start hacking 03:48:43 I read lately that starflight was done in forth and the executible forth produced ran on ibm pc. which free forth can do that? 03:49:03 are you a person who made a forth implementation? your name feels familiar 03:49:28 no I haven't implemented a forth system that can be used seriously 03:50:17 heh 03:50:27 but you are an experienced forth programmer? 03:50:40 I'd label myself intermediate 03:51:48 ok I am delighted to talk to someone who knows some forth! 03:52:12 I know only shell programming in bash and some tcl. 03:52:37 http://home.hccnet.nl/a.w.m.van.der.horst/lina.html for example can create standalone executables 03:52:47 the key word to search for in these systems is "turnkey" 03:52:57 forth seems to be more powerful.......can one see this power by reading starting forth and thinking forth? 03:55:20 I can't think of any smarter questions to ask right now... 03:56:20 those are good for a start but the internals are mostly outdated. http://forth.com/forth/fph.html is a good book as well as http://www.mpeforth.com/arena/ProgramForth.pdf 03:56:26 the latter is free to download 03:57:01 also the forth newsgroup is a good place to ask questions 04:05:31 thank you 04:09:32 croaker: jonesforth is also a good way to learn forth, https://bitbucket.org/xieyuheng/jonesforth/downloads 04:14:56 what makes it good? 04:15:34 by reading it you implement a forth by yourself 04:17:17 croaker: also http://www.figuk.plus.com/byof.htm 04:21:20 --- join: true-grue_ (~quassel@95-28-205-212.broadband.corbina.ru) joined 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