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mine has been at a halt for months due to time to fix an issue running word-lists from ram (instead of flash) 08:56:38 --- join: TodPunk (~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined #forth 08:56:52 wondering if you could take a look some time and see if you can find the issue(s) 08:56:55 bluekelp: Actually I've stopped on the F4 and am working on an F0 version instead. 08:57:09 I'll take a look, though. 08:57:15 haha. is the f0 the low power one? 08:57:17 I've still got some F4 boards here after all. :) 08:57:25 No, that's the L series. 08:57:34 F0 is the Cortex-M0 core. 08:57:44 i'll pastebin it - it's pretty small still (and needs gdb) 08:58:05 or i can zip and put somewhere if you want the support makefile, etc. 08:58:08 I've got a little thumbnail-sized board with an F030F4 on it: TSSOP20, 16KBFlash, 4KBSRAM. 08:58:14 Give me the zip. 08:58:20 ok 08:59:04 For some pointers you might want to look at mecrisp-stellaris and coreforth. 08:59:12 Both of those are Forths for the Cortex line. 08:59:33 (I'm actually using CoreForth to write some vocabularies while I work on my engine.) 09:00:10 ah, thanks for the info, i'll check them out 09:02:05 --- quit: pon1980 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 09:03:28 bluekelp.com/stm32forth.zip 09:03:58 --- join: asie (~textual@078088168214.elblag.vectranet.pl) joined #forth 09:04:17 OK, got it. 09:04:17 the main/guard loop is there to cycle cpu until gdb attaches bc after a reset it would fault before attach and i couldn't debug 09:04:37 I'm heading to bed now, but I'll grab a look at it tomorrow. 09:04:49 mov GUARD, #1 to continue, or alter the code 09:04:52 And in the mean time I'd recommend looking at CoreForth or MeCrisp. 09:04:57 (CoreForth is smaller.) 09:04:58 thanks - ah, i forgit you're in cn, right? 09:05:03 Yep. 09:05:07 i'll check out coreforth, thanks 09:06:36 i'm still trying to get the inner interp/loop working - it's beyond basic 09:06:59 ...heh - i can't believe i thought writing forth would be a good kata to practice asm 09:07:35 i've spent months, not hours - i still make noob asm errs and haven't fully groked the core of forth's philosophy - obviously ;) 09:08:04 Well, you will know that chip's ISA inside and out when you finish. :) 09:08:54 btw, it seems to work when I bootstrap to something other than RAM_WORD - the issue (now) is word-lists in ram 09:08:59 One of the reasons I switched to the F0 is ... it's easier. :D 09:09:18 *or* there's a subtle bug that made it look like flash worked ok and the ram addresses are uncovering it 09:09:36 so you'll see some weord code around detecting if word is in ram and alt paths for that, iirc 09:09:53 understood - guess i'll buy a f0 board then :) 09:15:53 The 32F0308DISCOVERY board is about $7 last I checked. 09:15:59 Very dirt-simple board. 09:16:08 No distracting bells and whistles. 09:19:19 --- quit: asie (Quit: I'll probably come back in either 20 minutes or 8 hours.) 09:28:45 --- join: pon1980 (~pon1980@h107n8-aepv-d7.ias.bredband.telia.com) joined #forth 09:29:34 --- quit: impomatic (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09:29:52 --- join: impomatic (~john_metc@37.152.203.231) joined #forth 09:32:55 --- join: asie (~textual@078088168214.elblag.vectranet.pl) joined #forth 09:36:06 --- quit: john_metcalf (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09:45:54 --- quit: dkordic (Quit: Ex-Chat) 10:24:56 --- quit: asie (Quit: I'll probably come back in either 20 minutes or 8 hours.) 10:34:05 --- join: xyh (~user@121.33.190.151) joined #forth 10:38:00 --- join: Zarutian (~zarutian@194-144-84-110.du.xdsl.is) joined #forth 10:40:37 --- join: asie (~textual@078088168214.elblag.vectranet.pl) joined #forth 10:53:12 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-98-210-219-91.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 10:53:48 --- join: john_metcalf (~digital_w@37.152.203.231) joined #forth 10:56:52 --- quit: Zarutian (Quit: Zarutian) 10:58:34 --- quit: john_metcalf (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 11:15:48 --- quit: ASau (Remote host closed the connection) 11:21:16 --- join: Azel (~Thunderbi@218.82.69.86.rev.sfr.net) joined #forth 11:21:42 --- join: ASau (~user@46.114.40.95) joined #forth 11:24:36 --- part: xyh left #forth 11:25:17 --- join: ASau` (~user@46.114.40.95) joined #forth 11:26:35 --- join: ASau`` (~user@46.114.40.95) joined #forth 11:26:36 --- quit: ASau (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 11:28:29 --- nick: ASau`` -> ASau 11:30:03 --- quit: ASau` (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 11:33:52 --- quit: goingretro (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11:39:33 --- join: goingretro (~kbmaniac@host81-156-150-214.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) joined #forth 11:50:53 --- quit: asie (Quit: I'll probably come back in either 20 minutes or 8 hours.) 12:05:52 --- join: asie (~textual@078088168214.elblag.vectranet.pl) joined #forth 12:08:12 --- join: john_metcalf (~digital_w@37.152.203.231) joined #forth 12:11:14 --- quit: cataska (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 12:59:06 --- quit: zephyrfalcon (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 13:24:27 john_metcalf, the guy who does a forth for corewars... corewaaars corewaaaars 13:46:25 Hi fantazo :-) Actually I'm thinking about making extending the Redcode Forth to include most of the standard 13:46:44 so an ans forth? 13:47:01 Also, randomly, I imagined you singing the corewars... corewaaars corewaaaars bit :-) 13:47:36 ans Forth without anything relating to files, etc 13:49:29 I've already offered to write it, but I need to arrange a core war tournament first. 13:59:26 john_metcalf, ans forth files would still make blocks possible ... 14:00:18 fantazo: no file access in Redcode though. 14:13:30 --- quit: fantazo (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 14:45:48 --- join: danfinch (~danfinch@69.59.125.205) joined #forth 15:00:54 --- quit: true-grue (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15:02:59 --- quit: ASau (Remote host closed the connection) 15:04:39 --- join: ASau (~user@46.114.40.95) joined #forth 15:07:10 --- quit: TodPunk (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15:07:23 --- join: TodPunk (Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined #forth 15:09:15 --- quit: ASau (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 15:15:28 --- quit: asie (Quit: I'll probably come back in either 20 minutes or 8 hours.) 15:17:07 --- quit: danfinch (Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1) 15:17:30 --- join: danfinch (~danfinch@69.59.125.205) joined #forth 15:26:20 --- join: kumul (~mool@adsl-72-50-85-167.prtc.net) joined #forth 15:35:46 --- quit: danfinch (Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1) 15:36:15 --- join: danfinch (~danfinch@69.59.125.205) joined #forth 15:45:09 --- join: dkcl (~user@unaffiliated/dandersen) joined #forth 16:12:55 --- quit: nighty-_ (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke) 16:45:58 --- quit: goingretro (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 16:47:49 --- join: goingretro (~kbmaniac@host81-156-150-214.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) joined #forth 17:10:29 --- join: saml_ (~saml@pool-71-190-4-101.nycmny.east.verizon.net) joined #forth 17:31:09 --- join: xyh (~user@121.33.190.144) joined #forth 17:44:42 --- join: beretta (~beretta@74.135.127.101) joined #forth 17:47:57 --- quit: kumul (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 18:23:26 --- part: xyh left #forth 18:51:45 --- join: kumul (~mool@adsl-72-50-85-86.prtc.net) joined #forth 19:06:10 --- quit: kumul (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 19:26:40 --- join: enthos (~enthos@81.4.106.67) joined #forth 20:23:35 --- join: cataska (~cataska@118-163-69-1.HINET-IP.hinet.net) joined #forth 20:34:14 --- quit: saml_ (Quit: Leaving) 20:44:17 --- join: Yunfan-phone (~jyfl987@114.242.248.110) joined #forth 21:10:48 --- quit: spoofer (Remote host closed the connection) 21:42:51 --- quit: goingretro (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21:48:25 --- join: goingretro (~kbmaniac@host81-156-150-214.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) joined #forth 21:53:02 --- quit: goingretro (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 21:57:27 --- quit: Yunfan-phone (Quit: Bye) 22:15:42 --- join: goingretro (~kbmaniac@host81-156-150-214.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) joined #forth 22:28:56 --- quit: beretta (Quit: Leaving) 23:08:40 --- join: fantazo (~fantazo@089144194024.atnat0003.highway.a1.net) joined #forth 23:26:45 --- join: ASau (~user@46.114.40.95) joined #forth 23:49:09 --- quit: Azel (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/14.05.06