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13:23:57 --- quit: impomatic (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13:25:39 --- quit: true-grue (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 13:32:20 --- quit: asie (Quit: I'll probably come back in either 20 minutes or 8 hours.) 13:32:45 --- join: asie (~textual@078088168214.elblag.vectranet.pl) joined #forth 13:55:39 --- join: Zarutian (~zarutian@194-144-84-110.du.xdsl.is) joined #forth 13:56:16 --- join: impomatic (~digital_w@37.152.203.231) joined #forth 14:03:54 I'll be in Cambridge UK for this at the end of the month http://www.computinghistory.org.uk/det/33835/Core-War-Tournament-Spring-2014 :-) 14:05:14 :) cool 14:15:57 --- join: Azel (~Thunderbi@ANice-653-1-446-77.w86-193.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined #forth 14:17:54 if a function calls ``debugger'', I can lead the user into a REPL of debugger now, 14:17:55 and I can print the definition of the function which calls ``debugger'', 14:17:55 --- join: nisstyre (~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre) joined #forth 14:18:04 and the definition of the function which calls the function which calls ``debugger'', ... and so on 14:18:04 due to the good nature of indirect-thread, cheers ^_^. 14:18:26 and I can also resume the computation after debug. 14:20:43 --- quit: asie (Quit: I'll probably come back in either 20 minutes or 8 hours.) 14:21:38 tangentstorm: how is your minneron now ? 14:28:50 --- join: asie (~textual@078088168214.elblag.vectranet.pl) joined #forth 14:28:54 heya xyh :) 14:29:34 your debugger can debug itself? 14:30:21 i'm working on the scripting language for minneron... mostly studying other languages at the moment. 14:31:06 tangentstorm: have a look at E (wiki.erights.org iirc) 14:31:45 tangentstorm: ya ! ``debug itself'' !! cool 14:31:56 tangentstorm: are you living in Minnesota ? 14:38:20 i don't live in minnesota, no.. :) it's short for 'minimal networked environment' and also a nod to the oberon system. 14:39:16 Zarutian: ah yeah, i remember seeing E a long time ago, but never really looked into it. thanks. :) 14:55:39 --- quit: asie (Quit: I'll probably come back in either 20 minutes or 8 hours.) 15:24:43 --- quit: dkcl (Remote host closed the connection) 15:51:50 --- quit: ASau (Remote host closed the connection) 15:56:16 --- join: ASau (~user@46.115.155.67) joined #forth 16:13:51 --- quit: Zag (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in) 16:15:33 --- join: Zag (~Zag@modemcable009.239-201-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined #forth 16:35:32 --- quit: goingretro (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16:40:54 tangentstorm: you mean to print the definition of the function which calls ``debugger'' is to debug the debuger itself? 16:41:30 --- quit: joneshf-laptop (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 16:46:30 does anyone know any very well designed debuger of some languages, which I could learn from ? 16:53:08 Smalltalk80/Squeak debugger is pretty nice 17:07:04 --- quit: nisstyre (Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3) 17:28:36 Zarutian: I have just watched some intro about smalltalk's debuger, which is very nice. 17:28:36 but one can provide some of these features, only when the text editor is part of the programming language too, 17:28:36 a simple interpreter or compiler can not achieve that. 18:28:35 very true. :) 18:30:30 although microsoft put a lot of work into getting a kind of smalltalk-like dynamic feedback in visual studio... and factor has a pretty awesome smalltalk-like debugger in it, but works with an external editor. 18:30:46 --- join: backz (~backz@177.81.5.105) joined #forth 18:41:31 --- quit: backz (Quit: backz) 19:01:44 * Zarutian reads https://plus.google.com/+LinusTorvalds/posts/YDKRFDwHwr6 and just blames x86 crappiness for it. 21:36:01 --- log: started forth/14.05.01 21:36:01 --- join: clog (~nef@bespin.org) joined #forth 21:36:01 --- topic: 'Forth Programming | logged by clog at http://bit.ly/91toWN | isforth.com | forthfreak.net | http://forthworks.com/standards/DPANS/ | www.greenarraychips.com' 21:36:01 --- topic: set by I440r!~mark4@cpe-192-136-220-10.tx.res.rr.com on [Thu Jan 02 15:51:09 2014] 21:36:01 --- names: list (clog kumul joneshf-laptop Zag ASau Azel impomatic mnemnion xyh kludge` ttmrichter tangentstorm john_metcalf pdurbin c00kiemon5ter bbloom DGASAU nighty^ bluekelp malyn irsol backer enthos cataska aksatac TodPunk djinni bjorkintosh zephyrfalcon yunfan dzho C-Keen yiyus joneshf rprimus +crc nop0x07bc kulp KipIngram Anarch koisoke_ bstates gordonjcp Adeon) 21:37:14 --- join: karswell` (~user@122.93.208.46.dyn.plus.net) joined #forth 21:37:21 --- join: nisstyre (~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre) joined #forth 22:20:29 --- join: mnemnion_ (~mnemnion@c-98-210-219-91.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 22:20:54 --- quit: mnemnion (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22:29:53 --- join: true-grue (~quassel@83.220.239.236) joined #forth 22:58:42 --- quit: kumul (Quit: Leaving) 23:31:28 --- join: asie (~textual@078088168214.elblag.vectranet.pl) joined #forth 23:53:40 --- join: pvt_petey (~pvt_petey@cpc11-colc6-2-0-cust131.7-4.cable.virginm.net) joined #forth 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/14.05.01