00:00:00 --- log: started forth/14.04.05 00:00:44 --- join: true-grue (~quassel@95-24-221-110.broadband.corbina.ru) joined #forth 00:24:01 --- quit: beretta (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00:56:54 --- quit: asie (Quit: I'll probably come back in either 20 minutes or 8 hours.) 00:57:42 --- join: dzliev (~dzliev@195.34.79.89) joined #forth 01:04:44 --- quit: dzliev (Remote host closed the connection) 01:08:53 --- join: asie (~textual@078088168214.elblag.vectranet.pl) joined #forth 01:13:25 --- join: newair (~newair@91.226.72.63) joined #forth 01:21:34 --- join: Mat3 (~Mat@91-64-127-6-dynip.superkabel.de) joined #forth 01:21:38 hello 01:22:05 heya Mat3 01:22:29 hi tangentstorm 01:27:10 --- quit: newair (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 01:32:21 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 01:32:59 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-98-210-219-91.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 01:37:02 --- quit: mnemnion (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01:45:57 --- quit: asie (Quit: I'll probably come back in either 20 minutes or 8 hours.) 02:35:02 --- quit: kludge` (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 02:39:21 --- join: kludge` (~comet@unaffiliated/espiral) joined #forth 03:33:20 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-98-210-219-91.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 03:37:46 --- quit: mnemnion (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04:52:22 --- quit: Mat3 (Quit: Verlassend) 04:54:40 --- join: asie (~textual@078088168214.elblag.vectranet.pl) joined #forth 05:00:40 --- quit: asie (Quit: I'll probably come back in either 20 minutes or 8 hours.) 05:04:52 --- join: asie (~textual@078088168214.elblag.vectranet.pl) joined #forth 05:33:03 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-98-210-219-91.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 05:37:36 --- quit: mnemnion (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 06:54:44 --- join: pvt_petey (~pvt_petey@host-2-96-126-6.as13285.net) joined #forth 07:10:50 --- join: kumul (~mool@adsl-173-228-251-70.prtc.net) joined #forth 07:23:07 --- join: Zarutian (~zarutian@194-144-84-110.du.xdsl.is) joined #forth 07:47:17 --- quit: pvt_petey (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07:50:46 --- join: pvt_petey (~pvt_petey@host-2-96-126-6.as13285.net) joined #forth 07:53:26 --- join: PoppaVic (~pops@unaffiliated/poppavic) joined #forth 07:55:43 --- part: PoppaVic left #forth 08:01:54 --- quit: asie (Quit: I'll probably come back in either 20 minutes or 8 hours.) 08:05:46 I've got a forth that I'm getting to run on AVR. currently I can embed forth source as strings in the C or read from stdin, but I'd like to store the forth source in flash while keeping it in a separate file. 08:06:24 all the docs about putting things in flash are about doing it with arrays embedded in the C source; 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I can only find docs for how to place compiled C code into flash. 19:18:13 you need a flash programming manunal for your chip 19:18:45 ok, so this might not be handled by gcc-avr? 19:20:25 technomancy: there is no include file as byte array directive for gcc-avr? 19:21:27 Zarutian: nothing in the docs about that, no 19:22:43 hmm... what about using a small tool/shell-script that converts your binary file into a .c file you could include? 19:23:14 that's probably what I'll do if there's no "official" way =) 19:32:36 --- quit: pvt_petey (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 19:34:35 --- join: nisstyre (~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre) joined #forth 20:12:39 --- join: kumool (~mool@adsl-64-237-226-126.prtc.net) joined #forth 20:15:46 --- quit: noneofmynickswor (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 22:27:13 --- join: itsy (~john_metc@31.185.135.87) joined #forth 22:27:13 --- quit: john_metcalf (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22:36:11 --- join: asie (~textual@078088168214.elblag.vectranet.pl) joined #forth 22:40:52 --- quit: Zarutian (Quit: Zarutian) 23:21:19 --- quit: asie (Quit: I'll probably come back in either 20 minutes or 8 hours.) 23:22:55 --- quit: goingretro (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 23:41:39 --- quit: nisstyre (Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3) 23:43:59 --- join: asie (~textual@78.88.168.214) joined #forth 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/14.04.05