00:00:00 --- log: started forth/14.01.30 00:00:31 petty children! lol :D 00:00:51 that was the most radical statement i've encountered till date 00:00:54 and it's true. :) 00:01:12 that's actually the reason why i never entered the world of stackoverflow 00:01:22 snippets-galore.com is more like it 00:02:17 --- quit: pvt_petey (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 00:02:19 bluekelp: unable to load the website 00:03:02 i was making a joke - that stackoverflow is really/primarily mostly just snippets 00:03:18 ah, okay, quite true too... 00:03:52 --- join: pvt_petey (~pvt_petey@82-69-79-20.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) joined #forth 00:06:16 so ttm, any new and interesting projects you're working on? 00:06:27 Yep. 00:06:29 other than teaching english to chinese children in china! 00:06:36 :) 00:06:49 Working on some hardware projects. First one has a deadline of mid-February. 00:07:20 oh, cool, so you are doing some professional work too? on the side! 00:07:29 i meant, professional technology work! 00:07:42 that's great infact 00:08:06 it would have been really bad for us to have lost you to literary leanings... ;) 00:10:12 alrighty, gotta go have lunch 00:10:19 talk to you later... 00:10:23 :) 00:10:29 --- quit: mayuresh (Quit: off for lunch) 00:11:44 good post - though i still find myself visiting SO to get answers about API questions/etc for iOS 00:12:26 bluekelp: It has its uses. I just think in the larger picture its flaws make it far less useful than it should be. 00:12:35 it's a useful repository of snippets if that's what you want/need 00:13:11 true. no tech community has (ever?) flourished and survived the onslaught 00:13:50 there may be some useful stuff there but signal:noise is low 00:14:23 is your hardware project the demo board for the ga? 00:15:11 i finally got the inner interp for mt stm32 forth working but now there are major issues w/words in ram - thumb issues 00:15:36 SO is *not* where i'm getting help ;) 00:17:23 --- join: asie (~textual@078088168214.elblag.vectranet.pl) joined #forth 00:52:54 --- join: Bahman (~Bahman@2.146.165.229) joined #forth 01:01:34 --- quit: pvt_petey (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 01:03:24 --- join: pvt_petey (~pvt_petey@82-69-79-20.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) joined #forth 01:19:46 --- quit: pvt_petey (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 01:28:25 --- join: pvt_petey (~pvt_petey@82-69-79-20.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) joined #forth 01:35:10 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(~pvt_petey@82-69-79-20.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) joined #forth 07:55:51 --- join: Bahman (~Bahman@2.146.165.229) joined #forth 07:58:48 --- quit: pvt_petey (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 08:00:04 --- join: pvt_petey (~pvt_petey@82-69-79-20.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) joined #forth 08:04:34 i think someone just asked this, but i didn't see an answer... are there any modern block-centric forths, aside from colorforth? 08:05:06 hrm. perhaps i should just add a device to retro... 08:06:44 --- quit: pvt_petey (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 08:08:15 --- join: pvt_petey (~pvt_petey@82-69-79-20.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) joined #forth 08:14:02 --- quit: Bahman (Quit: Leaving.) 08:29:26 恭喜发财, people! 08:30:48 is that a message telling me to find a terminal with better unicode support? 08:31:08 happy new year? :D 08:31:22 tangentstorm: Yes. To both. :P 08:31:58 happy new year :) 08:42:25 --- join: asie (~textual@078088168214.elblag.vectranet.pl) joined #forth 08:52:35 --- quit: pvt_petey (Read error: Connection timed out) 08:53:53 --- join: pvt_petey (~pvt_petey@82-69-79-20.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) joined #forth 09:06:36 Feliz año nuevo. 09:07:41 windows 7 only comes with 1 font that supports latin and chinese characters 09:08:34 apart from pretending that tahoma and sans are different 09:09:57 i see 4 little narrow rectangles, but i copied and pasted it into chrome to search and it showed up. 09:10:24 i suspect that windows 7 comes with a bunch of fonts that just aren't installed... 09:11:39 --- join: Mat3 (~claude@91-64-103-24-dynip.superkabel.de) joined #forth 09:11:42 hi all 09:20:40 --- quit: asie (Quit: I'll probably come back in either 20 minutes or 8 hours.) 09:39:17 --- quit: kumul (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 09:53:41 --- join: goingretro (~kbmaniac@host86-152-131-53.range86-152.btcentralplus.com) joined #forth 10:07:41 --- join: john_metcalf (~john_metc@79.251.125.91.dyn.plus.net) joined #forth 10:15:22 --- join: Bahman (~Bahman@2.146.165.229) joined #forth 10:18:51 ciao 10:19:05 --- quit: Mat3 (Quit: Verlassend) 11:09:23 --- join: kumul (~mool@adsl-64-237-226-16.prtc.net) joined #forth 12:36:05 --- quit: Bahman (Quit: Leaving.) 12:45:33 --- join: hinv (~doug@c-50-142-234-175.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) joined #forth 12:45:48 Anybody know where the Starting Forth pdf is? 12:47:00 as far as i know you can only read it online on the forth.com site... 12:47:12 there's a *thinking* forth pdf... 12:47:25 http://thinking-forth.sourceforge.net/ 13:23:56 --- quit: mnemnion (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13:24:25 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-98-210-219-91.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 13:28:24 --- join: I440r (~mark4@cpe-192-136-220-10.tx.res.rr.com) joined #forth 13:28:24 --- mode: ChanServ set +o I440r 13:32:30 --- quit: true-grue (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13:58:03 --- quit: nighty^ (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke) 14:15:20 hinv: the Starting Forth isn't PDF but it's available online in html - but i assume you already know that 14:38:41 someone looking to start forth coding? 14:41:25 I440r, hinv did 14:42:03 cool 15:15:02 if you can live with the funny dialect, the Jupiter Ace manual is a good read too 15:32:14 --- join: pvt_pete_ (~pvt_petey@82-69-79-20.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) joined #forth 15:35:15 --- quit: pvt_petey (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 15:59:28 --- join: ASau` (~user@p5083D398.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 16:02:02 --- quit: ASau (Read error: Operation timed out) 17:11:57 this? http://www.jupiter-ace.co.uk/usermanual.html 17:30:31 jupiter ace - i have not heard that name for 30 years 17:31:04 kraehe: yes 17:31:18 you can build your own, there's nothing to them 17:31:24 a dozen or so commonly-available chips 17:32:20 recall it was similar to a ZX spectrum, but monocrome 17:32:32 or was it grayscale? 17:59:01 monochrome 17:59:20 there was supposed to be an add-on that gave you 1k of attribute memory like the Spectrum 17:59:48 --- quit: Zarutian (Quit: Zarutian) 18:07:43 --- quit: pvt_pete_ (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 18:09:30 --- join: scott0070 (~scott@c-67-187-76-134.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) joined #forth 18:13:30 --- quit: scott0070 (Client Quit) 18:16:05 did read the wikipedia article about it - only 8800 units produced ;-( 18:16:25 and I think none of the was shipped to a German distributor 18:17:04 never seen one in real life - only the advertisements in UK computer magazines at that time 18:47:01 I learned a little forth because of propeller forth and tachyon forth for the parallax propeller 18:47:10 both are quite interesting... 18:47:38 paralax propeller is great system - often used by German rocket hobbyists 18:48:37 http://forums.parallax.com/showthread.php/141061-TACHYON-A-very-fast-and-compact-Forth-SD-file-handling-TELNET-FTP-WEB-servers?highlight=Tachyon 18:49:06 http://forums.parallax.com/showthread.php/146693-Propforth-v5.5-is-available-for-download?highlight=Tachyon 18:49:12 I still have a lot to learn. 18:49:38 I think there is a Jupiter ACE styled version of propforth as well. 20:28:08 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 21:10:58 --- quit: kumul (Quit: Leaving) 22:28:40 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-98-210-219-91.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 22:33:24 --- quit: mnemnion (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/14.01.30