00:00:00 --- log: started forth/13.12.05 00:12:53 --- quit: asie (Quit: I'll probably come back in either 20 minutes or 8 hours.) 00:15:07 --- quit: regreg (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00:52:27 --- quit: kludge` (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01:09:52 --- join: regreg (~regreg@77.81.151.155) joined #forth 01:16:49 --- quit: LinearInterpol (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01:30:04 --- join: protist (~protist@160.224.69.111.dynamic.snap.net.nz) joined #forth 01:46:56 ttmrichter: http://x.baidu.com/link this router use mips 24k 01:47:38 Lots of routers use MIPS. 01:47:51 That seems to be the MIPS niche. 01:52:50 but this is very cheap in your location :] 01:53:06 and baidu add it many modern features 01:53:50 Including modern surveillance? :D 01:54:42 well , how can you require more since you already under the surveillance of our great party 01:55:24 By subverting the surveillance obviously. :) 01:55:56 and they have file about btcoin today 01:56:14 which lead about 2000 CNY value drop 01:56:19 I still find bitcoin LOL-worthy. 01:56:27 An "anonymous" currency that tracks every transaction. 01:56:49 and i feel worry about sha256 02:33:51 --- join: Bahman (~Bahman@2.146.211.149) joined #forth 02:40:56 --- join: aranhoide (~smuxi@175.Red-83-59-1.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) joined #forth 03:36:56 --- join: kludge` (~comet@unaffiliated/espiral) joined #forth 03:40:41 --- join: nighty^ (~nighty@lns-bzn-49f-62-147-170-46.adsl.proxad.net) joined #forth 03:48:44 --- quit: kludge` (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 03:51:39 --- join: kludge` (~comet@unaffiliated/espiral) joined #forth 03:57:40 --- join: LinearInterpol (~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com) joined #forth 04:10:26 --- join: dkordic (~danilo@93-86-136-29.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs) joined #forth 04:23:47 --- quit: protist (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 04:42:55 --- quit: kludge` (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 04:43:04 --- join: asie (~asie@146.185.134.63) joined #forth 04:43:06 ugh 04:43:15 i've been thinking for a month on the best way to work on my Minecraft computing mod 04:43:23 whether to use ASM and write a Forth for a custom CPU architecture 04:43:28 or to just implement Forth as the CPU itself 04:46:55 --- join: kludge` (~comet@unaffiliated/espiral) joined #forth 04:51:52 You want to make a computer in Minecraft? 05:01:04 --- quit: carc (Quit: QUIT) 05:01:48 --- join: carc (~carc@unaffiliated/carc) joined #forth 05:12:40 --- quit: kludge` (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05:23:31 --- quit: Bahman (Quit: Leaving.) 05:30:12 --- join: kludge` (~comet@unaffiliated/espiral) joined #forth 05:40:30 ttmrichter: No 05:40:36 I am planning on making a Minecraft modification that adds in computers 05:40:59 There is one, ComputerCraft, but it is too high level, imbalanced and buggy for my tastes 05:41:01 also closed source 05:42:52 ttmrichter: the question is on design philosophy 05:42:59 as i want the primary language on it to be FORTH or FORTH-derived 05:43:07 whether to make a generic purpose ASM and run FORTH on it for the mod 05:43:12 or to make FORTH the CPU itself 05:45:17 "Forthcraft" -- good and original name, according to Google :) 05:50:29 true-grue: yes 05:50:34 so, the question is 05:50:42 are there any existing FORTH-derived/optimized CPU designs? 05:50:51 not interested in hardware intristics, more like opcode/instruction sets 05:51:33 and what tips would you give in terms of design 05:54:03 as a lot of you know forth better than id o 05:54:37 asie: There's a whole book on stack CPUs. 05:58:18 name and link? 05:58:29 i'd be more than happy to study sources which can improve the quality of the system emulated 05:58:42 especially as things like Minecraft automation fit very well with a stack environment 06:09:43 --- join: aranhoide_ (~smuxi@175.Red-83-59-1.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) joined #forth 06:13:07 --- join: Chillectual (~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com) joined #forth 06:18:46 --- join: true-grue_ (~quassel@95-28-181-226.broadband.corbina.ru) joined #forth 06:18:47 --- quit: true-grue (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 06:18:47 --- quit: LinearInterpol (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 06:18:57 --- join: true-grue (~quassel@95-28-181-226.broadband.corbina.ru) joined #forth 06:21:26 --- quit: true-grue_ (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 06:23:23 --- quit: aranhoide_ (Remote host closed the connection) 06:46:18 asie: see the link to greenarrays chips above: www.greenarraychips.com 06:46:58 you can find information there about the F18A 06:47:43 you can find the instruction set here: http://www.colorforth.com/inst.htm 06:47:55 but that is not nearly the whole story 06:48:37 http://www.greenarraychips.com/home/documents/greg/DB001-110412-F18A.pdf 06:49:34 there is a good introduction to the architecture and instruction set of those chips at http://school.arrayforth.com/ 06:50:44 you can use that directly, or a modification as in the following blog series: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ashleyf/archive/2013/09/21/chuck-moores-creations.aspx 07:14:49 --- nick: Chillectual -> LinearInterpol 07:19:45 --- quit: regreg (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07:32:55 aranhoide: Are you making something with those chips? 07:49:32 true-grue: I wish I had the time, but nothing yet 07:50:02 it's tight at work 07:52:13 If someone want to do something good for GreenArrays I would suggest porting/making free clone of VentureForth for G144. 07:59:59 what's VentureForth? I tried googling but a lot of different things came up, nothing obviously related 08:00:14 true-grue^ 08:03:43 --- join: kumul (~mool@67.224.178.69) joined #forth 08:04:14 aranhoide: There was InteallaSys company where SEAforth (G144 predecessors) were builded by Chuck Moore. In times of IntellaSys some actual/practical/etc projects were made sucessfully: music synthesizers (FM, physical modelling, voice modelling), hearing aid device. All SEAforth code was made on VentureForth system. 08:04:52 OK, so it's a forth implementation 08:05:02 I see 08:07:22 aranhoide: It's an assembler/simulator for SEAforth chips. VentureForth is easily extensible, has good interoperability with generic PC tools and written in ANS Forth. 08:36:49 --- quit: kludge` (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 08:38:03 --- join: kludge` (~comet@unaffiliated/espiral) joined #forth 09:09:06 --- nick: LinearInterpol -> ClericalError 09:18:58 --- nick: ClericalError -> adrin 09:30:48 --- quit: kludge` (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 09:36:06 --- join: kludge` (~comet@unaffiliated/espiral) joined #forth 09:39:32 --- nick: adrin -> ClericalError 10:06:11 --- quit: kludge` (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 10:11:41 --- join: kludge` (~comet@unaffiliated/espiral) joined #forth 10:22:39 --- quit: kludge` (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 10:25:03 --- join: kludge` (~comet@unaffiliated/espiral) joined #forth 11:20:26 --- join: Tod-Autojoined2 (~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined #forth 11:20:28 --- join: daowee_ (~daowee@m37-197-73-245.cust.tele2.se) joined #forth 11:21:02 --- join: kumool (~mool@67.224.178.69) joined #forth 11:21:42 --- quit: daowee (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11:21:42 --- quit: Tod-Autojoined (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11:23:33 --- quit: kumul (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 11:46:57 --- quit: true-grue (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12:09:02 --- quit: tangentstorm (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2) 12:21:57 --- join: regreg (~regreg@77.81.151.155) joined #forth 12:55:43 --- quit: aranhoide (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 13:20:32 --- join: aranhoide (~smuxi@175.Red-83-59-1.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) joined #forth 13:20:36 --- quit: aranhoide (Read error: error:1408F119:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:decryption failed or bad record mac) 13:22:44 --- join: aranhoide (~smuxi@175.Red-83-59-1.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) joined #forth 13:22:49 --- quit: aranhoide (Excess Flood) 13:24:57 --- join: aranhoide (~smuxi@175.Red-83-59-1.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) joined #forth 13:50:14 --- quit: regreg (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 13:54:03 --- quit: nighty^ (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke) 13:59:42 --- join: aranhoide_ (~smuxi@175.Red-83-59-1.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) joined #forth 14:04:14 --- quit: aranhoide (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 14:04:20 --- quit: aranhoide_ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 14:15:04 --- join: ASau` (~user@p5083D05E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 14:15:47 --- quit: ASau (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 14:19:56 --- join: noneofmynickswor (~mool@adsl-64-237-226-202.prtc.net) joined #forth 14:22:38 --- quit: kumool (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 14:25:40 --- nick: ASau` -> ASau 14:46:41 --- quit: dkordic (Quit: Ex-Chat) 14:59:36 --- join: Azel (~Thunderbi@214.82.69.86.rev.sfr.net) joined #forth 15:54:01 --- quit: john_metcalf (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 15:55:00 --- join: john_metcalf (~john_metc@87.114.102.71) joined #forth 16:34:20 --- join: w0rm_x (~w0rm@client-86-27-16-73.glfd.adsl.virginm.net) joined #forth 16:52:52 --- part: w0rm_x left #forth 17:20:40 --- join: tangentstorm (~michal@108-218-151-22.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined #forth 17:25:00 --- quit: tangentstorm (Client Quit) 17:25:33 --- join: tangentstorm (~michal@108-218-151-22.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined #forth 17:33:06 --- quit: nisstyre (Quit: Leaving) 17:52:14 --- quit: noneofmynickswor (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17:57:06 --- join: w0rm_x (~w0rm@client-86-27-16-73.glfd.adsl.virginm.net) joined #forth 18:00:29 --- join: kumul (~mool@adsl-64-237-226-202.prtc.net) joined #forth 18:01:25 --- join: kumool (~mool@67.224.178.69) joined #forth 18:01:55 --- quit: w0rm_x (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 18:05:11 --- quit: kumul (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 18:07:13 --- quit: ASau (Quit: Reboot.) 18:13:25 --- join: ASau (~user@p5083D05E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 18:30:57 --- join: protist (~protist@144.224.69.111.dynamic.snap.net.nz) joined #forth 18:37:37 asie: there're some programming mod for minecraft already 19:52:09 --- quit: ClericalError (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 21:04:43 --- join: regreg (~regreg@77.81.151.155) joined #forth 21:44:30 --- join: nisstyre (~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre) joined #forth 21:46:11 --- quit: regreg (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 21:57:29 --- quit: goingretro (Remote host closed the connection) 22:11:15 --- join: true-grue (~quassel@95-28-245-253.broadband.corbina.ru) joined #forth 22:24:49 --- quit: asie (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8) 22:47:54 --- quit: kumool (Quit: Leaving) 23:04:22 --- join: aranhoide (~smuxi@175.Red-83-59-1.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) joined #forth 23:18:32 --- quit: I440r (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 23:38:51 --- join: w0rm_x (~w0rm@client-86-27-16-73.glfd.adsl.virginm.net) joined #forth 23:39:22 --- part: w0rm_x left #forth 23:41:10 --- quit: Azel (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 23:42:18 --- quit: impomatic (Quit: impomatic) 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/13.12.05