00:00:00 --- log: started forth/13.11.26 00:34:35 --- join: true-grue (~quassel@95-24-200-7.broadband.corbina.ru) joined #forth 00:54:57 : dup sp@ @ ; 01:09:11 --- quit: ASau` (Remote host closed the connection) 01:11:31 --- join: ASau` (~user@p54AFFD35.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 01:41:42 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@102.sub-75-198-49.myvzw.com) joined #forth 02:03:17 --- quit: mnemnion (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 02:09:30 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@64.sub-75-241-137.myvzw.com) joined #forth 02:41:07 --- quit: kludge` (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 02:44:14 --- join: kludge` (~comet@unaffiliated/espiral) joined #forth 02:46:20 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 03:20:30 --- join: mayuresh (~mayuresh@triband-mum-120.60.161.187.mtnl.net.in) joined #forth 03:20:34 hello :) 03:23:47 --- part: mayuresh left #forth 03:47:49 --- quit: kludge` (Remote host closed the connection) 03:52:58 --- join: kludge` (~comet@unaffiliated/espiral) joined #forth 04:29:51 --- join: nighty-_ (~nighty@lns-bzn-49f-62-147-170-46.adsl.proxad.net) joined #forth 04:30:36 --- quit: nighty^ (Quit: leaving) 04:56:19 --- join: w0rm_x (~w0rm@client-82-26-214-139.pete.adsl.virginm.net) joined #forth 05:14:25 --- nick: ASau` -> ASau 05:42:33 --- quit: Bahman (Quit: Leaving.) 06:01:42 --- part: w0rm_x left #forth 06:33:22 --- join: Bahman (~Bahman@2.146.52.153) joined #forth 06:36:24 --- join: LinearInterpol (~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com) joined #forth 06:45:07 --- quit: ASau (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 06:46:22 --- join: Zarutian (~zarutian@194-144-84-110.du.xdsl.is) joined #forth 06:48:10 --- join: ASau (~user@p54AFFD35.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 06:57:09 --- join: Chillectual (~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com) joined #forth 07:00:28 8th sounds like half a 4th. 07:00:44 --- quit: LinearInterpol (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 07:02:06 oh 07:02:13 "Regarding the name, well: Reva is very fast. 8th is only about half as fast, and half of a fourth is an eighth." 07:02:19 hah. 07:02:55 * tangentstorm approves. 07:08:31 --- join: kumool (~mool@adsl-64-237-225-236.prtc.net) joined #forth 07:21:47 mark4: so should I be able to run your forth on a my android tablet? It has a Cortex-A9 processor. 07:22:11 --- nick: Chillectual -> LinearInterpol 07:49:01 --- join: noneofmynickswor (~mool@66-50-97-148.prtc.net) joined #forth 07:51:59 --- quit: kumool (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 07:57:50 --- quit: Bahman (Quit: Leaving.) 08:57:53 --- join: kumool (~mool@adsl-64-237-224-108.prtc.net) joined #forth 09:01:06 --- quit: noneofmynickswor (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 09:47:39 --- part: impomatic left #forth 10:03:30 --- quit: nisstyre (Quit: Leaving) 10:48:37 --- join: nisstyre (~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre) joined #forth 10:58:59 tangentstorm, hopefuly 10:59:44 i actually want this as a library i can use inside android apps 10:59:48 --- join: Nisstyre-laptop (~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre) joined #forth 11:00:28 --- quit: Nisstyre-laptop (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11:08:30 --- join: kumul (~mool@adsl-64-237-224-108.prtc.net) joined #forth 11:09:07 --- quit: kumool (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 11:10:14 --- quit: LinearInterpol (Read error: Connection timed out) 11:11:21 --- join: LinearInterpol (~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com) joined #forth 11:14:48 --- join: alexshendi (~alexshend@HSI-KBW-078-043-199-120.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) joined #forth 11:15:50 --- join: Left_Turn (~Left_Turn@unaffiliated/turn-left/x-3739067) joined #forth 11:16:09 --- part: Left_Turn left #forth 11:16:17 --- quit: kludge` (Quit: leaving) 11:16:27 cool 11:17:05 --- join: kludge` (~comet@unaffiliated/espiral) joined #forth 11:17:22 --- quit: kludge` (Client Quit) 11:17:59 --- join: kludge` (~comet@unaffiliated/espiral) joined #forth 11:23:28 --- quit: Zarutian (Quit: Zarutian) 11:25:07 --- part: alexshendi left #forth 12:15:14 --- quit: true-grue (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12:17:29 --- join: impomatic (~digital_w@87.114.102.71) joined #forth 12:19:57 --- join: Azel (~Thunderbi@125.82.69.86.rev.sfr.net) joined #forth 13:20:56 --- join: mtm (uid16845@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bhkgruohxctmzmfu) joined #forth 13:26:25 --- join: yiyus (1242712427@server1.bouncer4you.de) joined #forth 13:43:52 --- quit: impomatic (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 13:44:38 --- quit: ASau (Remote host closed the connection) 13:46:13 --- join: impomatic (~digital_w@87.114.102.71) joined #forth 13:46:47 --- quit: LinearInterpol (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 13:47:30 --- join: ASau (~user@p54AFFD35.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 13:48:36 --- quit: regreg (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 14:15:48 --- join: ASau` (~user@p54AFFD70.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 14:18:41 --- quit: ASau (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 14:20:54 --- quit: nighty-_ (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke) 14:21:27 --- join: nighty^ (~nighty@lns-bzn-49f-62-147-170-46.adsl.proxad.net) joined #forth 14:34:15 --- join: w0rm_x (~w0rm@client-82-26-214-139.pete.adsl.virginm.net) joined #forth 14:38:39 --- nick: ASau` -> ASau 15:20:15 --- quit: w0rm_x (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 15:38:39 --- join: LinearInterpol (~RJones@bb-205-209-93-163.gwi.net) joined #forth 15:47:36 --- join: w0rm_x (~w0rm@client-82-26-220-142.pete.adsl.virginm.net) joined #forth 15:57:06 tangentstorm: Is "fast" measured against anything real like what Felleisen does or something known-vapour like the speed of empty loop? 15:58:25 --- join: Chillectual (~RJones@66.186.162.220) joined #forth 15:58:49 --- quit: LinearInterpol (Disconnected by services) 15:59:03 --- nick: Chillectual -> LinearInterpol 16:16:33 --- quit: kumul (Quit: Leaving) 16:16:53 --- join: kumul (~mool@adsl-64-237-224-108.prtc.net) joined #forth 16:17:09 --- quit: kumul (Client Quit) 16:17:28 --- join: kumul (~mool@adsl-64-237-224-108.prtc.net) joined #forth 16:17:29 --- nick: kumul -> kumool 16:17:38 who is felleisen and who made him the decider of what is or is not fast? 16:17:40 --- quit: kumool (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16:17:55 --- join: kumool (~mool@adsl-64-237-224-108.prtc.net) joined #forth 16:18:13 asau benchmarks of all types are pure unadulterated bullshit anyway 16:18:30 the only real benchmark is "is my code faster if i do X or if i do Y" 16:18:36 thers no "is my code faster than your code" 16:23:59 --- part: w0rm_x left #forth 16:24:44 --- join: spoofer (~cruella@72.10.28.164) joined #forth 16:29:21 "Who" doesn't make people decide, 16:29:25 "what" does. 16:40:05 --- quit: nisstyre (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16:54:57 --- join: nisstyre (~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre) joined #forth 16:58:03 --- quit: yiyus (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16:59:54 --- quit: ASau (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 17:31:29 --- join: ASau (~user@p54AFFD70.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 18:25:52 --- quit: LinearInterpol (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 19:58:51 --- join: LinearInterpol (~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com) joined #forth 20:45:31 --- quit: LinearInterpol (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 20:52:00 --- quit: spoofer (Remote host closed the connection) 20:54:52 --- join: w0rm_x (~w0rm@client-82-26-220-142.pete.adsl.virginm.net) joined #forth 21:03:52 --- join: noneofmynickswor (~mool@66-50-97-148.prtc.net) joined #forth 21:06:11 --- quit: kumool (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 21:10:39 --- join: Bahman (~Bahman@2.146.52.153) joined #forth 21:31:19 --- quit: w0rm_x (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 21:31:29 --- quit: noneofmynickswor (Quit: Leaving) 21:41:30 --- join: KipIngram (~KipIngram@209.40.205.22) joined #forth 21:42:17 Hey, is anyone aware of studies on "real world" return stack depths? Not how much depth is available - how much is *used* in typical well-factored applications? 21:44:23 --- join: beretta (~beretta@74.135.127.101) joined #forth 21:45:00 --- join: asie (~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl) joined #forth 21:49:23 KipIngram: i have asked this question too :] 21:49:38 KipIngram: and ttmrichter says 1024 is okay 21:49:55 Even smaller if you like. 21:50:03 Depends on the scale and nature of your application. 21:50:11 and as i know, python's default stack depth is 1000 21:50:18 which is like forth's return stack 21:50:55 althgouht it could be set to a bigger value in practise, but i havnt seen any python project adjust that value yet 21:56:43 Thank you. 21:57:54 --- quit: asie (Quit: I'll probably come back in either 20 minutes or 8 hours.) 22:50:10 --- join: true-grue (~quassel@37-144-6-19.broadband.corbina.ru) joined #forth 23:23:48 KipIngram, thers also the whole smallest allocation unit to take into account if your talking about in linux 23:24:03 you cant allocate less than 4k so thats the minimum stack size in linux 23:45:08 --- quit: Azel (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 23:58:56 --- quit: beretta (Quit: Leaving) 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/13.11.26