00:00:00 --- log: started forth/13.11.17 00:02:04 BTW, what are YOU doing on this channel? 00:02:09 Have you written anything in Forth? 00:02:18 have you? 00:02:22 Contributed to any Forth implementation? 00:02:26 Yes, I did. 00:02:27 have you? 00:02:31 prove it. 00:02:39 See around. 00:03:01 asau is as strange as ever 00:03:09 I have contributed to gforth, pForth, SP-Forth, FICL. 00:03:23 yeah, and we all believe you... 00:03:42 All those are opensource projects, you have access to commit messages. 00:03:59 So, anyone with sufficient skills can go and see it. 00:04:07 What have YOU done in Forth? 00:04:11 masquerading as someone else, aren't you asau? 00:04:34 So, have you done anything, you loser? 00:04:56 asau: you aren't just a dumb-fuck, you're also a dim-wit 00:05:38 Anyway, good luck getting at least that level of contributions. 00:05:40 ;) 00:05:58 yeah, that's the last thing i need from you 00:06:18 So far you haven't done anything. 00:06:22 have you? 00:06:29 See above. 00:06:36 prove it with proper links 00:06:44 if you've got any real stuff to back you up 00:06:47 google 64-bit support for pforth. 00:06:58 links would be more appreciated 00:07:09 because all we get from you on this channel is bullshit 00:07:10 http://code.google.com/p/pforth and down. 00:07:19 Now what? 00:07:25 A boy cannot even use google? 00:07:47 yeah, and a dumbfuck like you can't even point to a commit message presented via the web 00:07:56 interesting 00:07:59 Why should I? 00:08:02 I have done it. 00:08:11 yada yadi yada... 00:08:17 you're just faking it 00:08:18 You haven't done anything other than calling shit. :p 00:08:29 I have seen your resume. 00:08:40 yeah, right, i've just been calling your statements what they are 00:08:48 Sure, it is sort of full of nice words, but what are projects? 00:08:53 why! 00:08:58 go read the channel log 00:09:04 and you'll realize what i'm doing with forth 00:09:09 Oh, right? 00:09:11 do you need help with that? 00:09:18 What have you written so far? 00:09:26 use google 00:09:39 or does someone like yo cannot even use google? 00:09:48 I have seen what you have written. 00:09:52 have you? 00:09:57 then why ask for it? 00:09:58 It is web stuff for bus companies. :) 00:10:06 In Forth. Ha-ha! 00:10:13 that's so enlightening 00:10:25 asau is obtuse 00:10:46 in addition to being a dimwit 00:11:00 i've been on this channel for less than a week 00:11:09 and you know what i've been doing with forth 00:11:16 don't you pay any attention! :) 00:11:25 Yeah, yeah. 00:11:45 You've been on channel less than a week and have already managed to make an idiot of yourself. :) 00:12:56 as if you are not an idiot? 00:13:06 heh, go forth dude, and go get a life 00:13:33 Even that newbie from California has some code to prove that he has done a little. :) 00:14:31 are you a newbie? 00:14:38 do you actually have any code to prove 00:14:42 your mettle? 00:14:42 Am I from California? 00:14:54 You cannot even read it. :D 00:15:00 so show us some code to prove your mettle 00:15:05 are you for real 00:15:06 ? 00:15:16 because we see a whole lot of fart from you 00:15:31 and all we get on this channel from you is how forth isn't good enough 00:15:31 What is more important that you don't even understand that it is morning here, and I have my morning news. :) 00:15:35 --- join: asie (~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl) joined #forth 00:15:38 and how we should go use something other than forth 00:16:00 asau: you truely are a dumb-nut 00:16:13 Sure, you expect that from a person whose experience is limited to web sites. 00:16:16 a dumb-nut who got kicked off this channel 00:16:21 isn't it you asau? 00:17:16 Anyway, you haven't written a page in Forth so far, let alone doing some more complicated work. 00:18:13 nope, maybe you can't read all that well, but, i'm just a newbie 00:18:13 Good like with your "having life" in your TZ when it is middle of the day. 00:18:31 and all this newbie got from you was BULLSHIT 00:18:47 do you spew your bullshit at all newbies? 00:18:56 is that why you got kicked off the channel the las time? 00:21:53 you're not getting it asau 00:22:04 you might be good, but, you aren't divine 00:22:19 and even then you have no right to spread shit about forth on this channel 00:22:32 leave alone to newbies 00:24:11 --- quit: mayuresh (Quit: "off for lunch") 00:42:49 --- quit: asie (Quit: I'll probably come back in either 20 minutes or 8 hours.) 00:47:10 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 00:47:47 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@8.23.141.40) joined #forth 00:52:07 --- quit: mnemnion (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 00:55:05 --- join: asie (~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl) joined #forth 00:56:51 --- quit: nisstyre (Quit: Leaving) 01:06:17 --- quit: asie (Quit: I'll probably come back in either 20 minutes or 8 hours.) 01:12:20 --- join: asie (~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl) joined #forth 02:48:18 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@8.23.141.40) joined #forth 02:51:02 --- quit: kludge` (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 02:52:25 --- quit: mnemnion (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02:53:38 --- join: kludge` (~comet@unaffiliated/espiral) joined #forth 03:15:08 --- quit: asie (Quit: I'll probably come back in either 20 minutes or 8 hours.) 03:15:50 --- join: _spt_ (~Jaat@unaffiliated/-spt-/x-5624824) joined #forth 03:29:45 --- quit: impomatic (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 04:11:50 --- join: LinearInterpol (~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com) joined #forth 04:17:12 --- quit: ErhardtMundt (Remote host closed the connection) 04:42:31 --- join: asie (~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl) joined #forth 04:48:54 --- quit: _spt_ (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 04:48:56 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@8.23.141.40) joined #forth 04:54:04 --- quit: mnemnion (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 05:08:59 --- quit: Azel (Quit: Azel) 05:11:08 --- join: Azel (~Azel@83.82.69.86.rev.sfr.net) joined #forth 05:18:47 --- quit: Azel (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 05:29:25 --- join: impomatic (~digital_w@87.114.102.71) joined #forth 05:44:57 --- quit: Bahman (Quit: Leaving.) 05:49:28 --- join: Azel (~Thunderbi@83.82.69.86.rev.sfr.net) joined #forth 05:59:37 --- join: nighty^ (~nighty@lns-bzn-49f-62-147-170-46.adsl.proxad.net) joined #forth 06:01:09 --- join: yiyus (1242712427@server1.bouncer4you.de) joined #forth 06:49:41 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@8.23.141.40) joined #forth 06:54:06 --- quit: mnemnion (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 07:06:36 --- quit: asie (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07:08:19 --- join: asie (~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl) joined #forth 07:17:08 --- quit: mark4 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07:29:30 --- join: w0rm_x (~w0rm@client-81-107-143-174.midd.adsl.virginm.net) joined #forth 07:33:04 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@8.23.141.40) joined #forth 07:52:26 --- quit: asie (Quit: I'll probably come back in either 20 minutes or 8 hours.) 07:59:39 --- join: asie (~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl) joined #forth 08:33:28 --- quit: true-grue (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08:34:41 --- join: true-grue (~quassel@37-144-5-31.broadband.corbina.ru) joined #forth 08:44:04 --- join: Zarutian (~zarutian@194-144-84-110.du.xdsl.is) joined #forth 08:49:22 --- quit: Azel (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 09:04:48 --- quit: asie (Quit: I'll probably come back in either 20 minutes or 8 hours.) 09:05:07 --- join: asie (~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl) joined #forth 09:09:57 --- join: kumul (~mool@66-50-97-148.prtc.net) joined #forth 09:25:21 --- join: mark4 (~mark4@cpe-192-136-220-10.tx.res.rr.com) joined #forth 09:36:18 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 09:36:28 --- join: _spt_ (~Jaat@unaffiliated/-spt-/x-5624824) joined #forth 09:37:39 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@8.23.141.40) joined #forth 09:38:09 --- quit: yiyus (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09:42:03 --- quit: mnemnion (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 09:48:03 --- quit: mark4 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09:54:48 --- quit: asie (Quit: I'll probably come back in either 20 minutes or 8 hours.) 09:58:12 --- quit: kumul (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 10:01:49 --- join: asie (~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl) joined #forth 10:06:22 can one troll in Forth though? 10:08:00 <_spt_> depends on your definition of troll 10:17:02 : juggle >R 1 2 3 drop drop drop R> ; 10:20:09 : 0 1 ; 10:25:37 oh, good one 10:31:14 More evil: 10:31:18 : ; postpone 1+ postpone ; ; immediate 10:31:21 Normally people don't use "0". 10:34:36 Besides, there's good tradition of reporting redefinitions to programmer. :) 11:23:42 --- quit: asie (Quit: I'll probably come back in either 20 minutes or 8 hours.) 11:38:23 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@8.23.141.40) joined #forth 11:43:08 --- quit: mnemnion (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 11:55:00 --- join: Azel (~Thunderbi@83.82.69.86.rev.sfr.net) joined #forth 12:17:00 --- join: asie (~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl) joined #forth 12:18:56 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@8.23.141.40) joined #forth 12:22:39 --- quit: asie (Quit: I'll probably come back in either 20 minutes or 8 hours.) 12:43:33 --- join: asie (~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl) joined #forth 13:16:49 --- quit: asie (Quit: I'll probably come back in either 20 minutes or 8 hours.) 13:18:21 hmm... I presume there are selfcontained forth systems aviable that basicly are each a elf binary with small .code section and big .data section. Is this correct? 13:23:59 --- join: asie (~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl) joined #forth 13:34:39 --- quit: Zarutian (Quit: Zarutian) 13:41:12 --- join: yiyus (1242712427@server1.bouncer4you.de) joined #forth 13:47:39 --- quit: asie (Quit: I'll probably come back in either 20 minutes or 8 hours.) 14:01:23 --- join: Zarutian (~zarutian@194-144-84-110.du.xdsl.is) joined #forth 14:25:20 --- quit: true-grue (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14:34:32 --- join: asie (~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl) joined #forth 14:39:36 --- quit: asie (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 14:51:41 --- quit: Azel (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 14:53:18 --- join: Azel (~Thunderbi@83.82.69.86.rev.sfr.net) joined #forth 15:48:26 --- quit: yiyus (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16:01:17 --- quit: mnemnion (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16:02:01 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@8.23.141.40) joined #forth 16:02:16 --- join: nisstyre (~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre) joined #forth 16:10:51 --- join: mnemnion_ (~mnemnion@8.23.141.40) joined #forth 16:14:22 --- quit: mnemnion (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 16:19:33 --- quit: mnemnion_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16:20:23 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@8.23.141.40) joined #forth 16:28:23 --- quit: _spt_ (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 16:43:50 --- join: spoofer (~cruella@72.10.28.164) joined #forth 17:15:05 --- join: kumul (~mool@adsl-64-237-227-97.prtc.net) joined #forth 17:39:27 --- quit: Deformative (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17:55:29 --- quit: Zarutian (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 17:55:52 --- quit: spoofer (Quit: Leaving) 18:02:37 --- join: Zarutian (~zarutian@194-144-84-110.du.xdsl.is) joined #forth 18:28:39 Zarutian: agree with that 18:32:41 --- join: ASau` (~user@p54AFF3C7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 18:33:23 --- quit: ASau (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 18:41:33 --- quit: Zarutian (Quit: Zarutian) 19:01:36 --- quit: w0rm_x (Quit: if Φ Σ e : φ then Φ Σ τ' → σ' :: ∃) 19:24:37 --- join: Chillectual (~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com) joined #forth 19:24:53 --- quit: LinearInterpol (Disconnected by services) 19:24:58 --- nick: Chillectual -> LinearInterpol 19:42:54 --- join: mark4 (~mark4@cpe-192-136-220-10.tx.res.rr.com) joined #forth 20:08:57 --- join: Bahman (~Bahman@2.144.0.29) joined #forth 20:34:15 --- join: kumool (~mool@66-50-97-148.prtc.net) joined #forth 20:36:45 --- quit: kumul (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 20:44:13 --- quit: LinearInterpol (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 20:47:05 --- quit: kumool (Quit: Leaving) 20:58:45 --- join: LinearInterpol (~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com) joined #forth 21:19:21 --- quit: mnemnion (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21:20:09 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@8.23.141.40) joined #forth 21:22:44 --- quit: LinearInterpol (Read error: Connection timed out) 21:23:55 --- join: LinearInterpol (~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com) joined #forth 21:24:06 --- join: asie (~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl) joined #forth 21:28:32 --- quit: asie (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 21:47:33 --- join: asie (~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl) joined #forth 21:50:21 --- join: mayuresh (~mayuresh@triband-mum-120.60.170.74.mtnl.net.in) joined #forth 21:51:20 hello :) 21:55:32 Ahoy. 21:55:45 hey ttmrichter :) 21:59:23 i just did a double take 21:59:32 take a look at; http://tessel.io/ 21:59:37 hell just froze over 22:02:03 Nah, it was inevitable. 22:02:18 But the clue that a site's contents are automatically worthless lies in the .io domain. 22:02:20 at 180mhz, it's quite powerful 22:02:23 It's the domain of hipsters. 22:02:47 ttmrichter: yeah, now that you say it, .io is indeed for hipsters 22:02:49 At 180MHZ it would be very powerful ... if it weren't running a shit language which can never be made fast or power efficient compared to its alternatives. 22:03:10 i agree 22:03:15 i was only talking about the hardware 22:03:29 if it can run javascript native (sort-a) 22:03:38 it can definitely run forth 22:04:12 the tessel is based on something called a "script-chip" 22:04:19 wonder what that is 22:04:27 The STM32F4 series goes to 180MHz. 22:04:34 And isn't laden down with JavaScript shit. 22:04:39 :) 22:05:35 The chip on that scrap heap is the LPC1850. 22:05:56 More expensive than the STM32F4 and less capable all at the same time. 22:06:13 true work of hipsters... :) 22:08:02 Folks, what does "hipster" mean? 22:08:09 http://www.st.com/web/catalog/mmc/FM225/SC1169/SS1577/LN1806/PF255418 vs. http://www.digikey.com/us/en/ph/NXP/lpc1830-cortex-m3-mcu.html 22:08:15 Bahman: Do you want the official definition or what they currently are? 22:08:27 bahman: those people who love being only hip 22:08:29 asie: Both? 22:08:39 you know sort of like, being with what's the latest fad 22:08:41 or in thing 22:08:45 By definition, a hipster is a person who embraces everything they as a group see as a growing thing 22:08:46 --- quit: mark4 (Remote host closed the connection) 22:08:48 growing in popularity 22:08:54 so they can say they've been there first once it happens 22:09:00 There's also the self-flattering definition and the disparaging one. :) 22:09:03 Ah. 22:09:14 In practice, a hipster is a person who likes being different for the sake of being different, yet is actually identical to all his hipster friends 22:09:29 Self-flattering version: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hipster&defid=2705928 22:09:36 Thanks asie. 22:10:45 IRONY: the company most loved by hipsters is the biggest company in the world 22:11:07 ttmrichter: when you talk about performances, i was thinking if its possible to use ga144 for those p2p coins' mining like btc or other ones 22:11:18 jyf: will be way slower than ASICs or GPUs 22:11:24 especially ASICs 22:11:35 jyf: Yep. Better off making ASICs specifically for the task. 22:11:47 Still 22:11:57 manufacturing thousands of very powerful chips just to mine virtual coins... 22:11:58 Even better, though, would be staying away from hipster Monopoly® Money. 22:12:00 Humanity.jpg 22:12:03 ttmrichter: No 22:12:08 Hipster Monopoly Money is /Litecoin/. 22:12:15 Bitcoin is the mainstream Monopoly Money, at least in China 22:12:17 :) 22:12:19 asie: yes but it could easilly turn between many different coins 22:12:23 Bah. Like I'm going to keep up with the fashions. 22:12:27 jyf: likely won't 22:12:37 nobody cares about the other coins and most people focus on extending the Bitcoin protocol 22:12:39 rather than making their own 22:13:03 Despite Bitcoin's increasing failure rate. 22:13:09 Because it was designed badly. 22:13:13 my friends gots a money from an funder 22:13:18 who has millionts of btc 22:13:33 ttmrichter: it was 22:13:36 >anonymous currency 22:13:47 >all transactions are tracked as the only way to maintain the system 22:13:53 WATMAN 22:13:59 well it just replace the position of gold i think 22:14:12 In the wet dreams of technonerds maybe. 22:14:18 lol :D 22:14:22 ttmrichter: In China, it slowly is 22:14:23 Here in the real world I doubt it will have any real impact past a generation. 22:14:35 a generation!! 22:14:39 that would be too long 22:14:41 asie: Yes. Among Chinese technonerds. 22:15:06 Walk down a Chinese street and ask 10,000 people about Bitcoin and the response will be "WTF are you talking about?" 22:15:09 Chinese technonerds with giant sacks of money 22:15:25 Play money if they stuck it in Bitcoin. :) 22:15:38 asie: you cant blame us for that, we dont have a good welfare system 22:15:39 :) 22:15:48 everyone need to live on his own 22:15:59 jyf: You have your family, surely? 22:16:09 china is just like europe in 19 centuries 22:16:28 Even early 20th. 22:16:37 ttmrichter: i have parents , no partner 22:16:51 so i am somehow freely 22:17:01 and recently i got a chance to work from home :] 22:17:08 ah, cool :) 22:17:23 yes, so i can escape from beijing 22:17:34 When my wife's uncle got a terminal cancer :( the family came together for medical treatments. 22:17:44 Aunts, uncles, cousins, brothers, sisters, etc. 22:17:49 jyf: where are you actually from? 22:17:52 also from lung cancer 22:18:04 ttmrichter: you have an oriental wife!! 22:18:19 Yeah, Beijing is like living in a cigarette. That's being smoked. While you try to breathe. 22:18:29 Makes even Wuhan look like clean air by comparison. 22:18:35 ttmrichter: but you're canadian, isnt your country have everyone healthcare? 22:18:41 jyf: I'm not in Canada. 22:18:43 mayuresh: sourthen china 22:18:50 They don't pay medical care for expats. 22:18:55 ttmrichter: either your wife's uncle? 22:19:05 --- join: true-grue (~quassel@89-178-244-31.broadband.corbina.ru) joined #forth 22:19:10 My wife's uncle is Chinese. 22:19:10 For obvious reasons. 22:19:15 oops 22:19:24 that's why you came to china 22:19:31 Nope. 22:19:36 Happened by accident. 22:19:47 I originally came to China for a year to get away from the toxicity of high tech.. 22:19:57 "A year. Maybe two." That's what I said 12 years ago. 22:20:08 ttmrichter: and then, you couldn't leave... :) 22:20:17 do you speak wuhan dialect now? 22:20:18 Pretty much. The food was too good. 22:20:24 jyf: Nope. Too lazy. :) 22:20:29 i was in taipei for a while :) 22:20:34 loved the food 22:20:46 ttmrichter: you'd better be careful of those food 22:21:06 my homeland is also famous of the food 22:21:14 but its too expensive :[ 22:21:32 jyf: yeah, expensive, but, very nutritious 22:22:03 mayuresh: last weekend, i went lunch with my friend couple before i leave beijing, 22:22:18 its 3 people , and cost my 600 CNY 22:22:31 about 100 dollar 22:22:46 you must have taken them to a flashy restaurant or something 22:22:50 that's my hometown's style food 22:23:13 no just a small one 22:23:23 hmnn 22:23:30 my hometown's food is just that expensive 22:23:44 so i would learn cooking from my father after i came back home 22:23:56 your father cooks!! 22:23:58 cool 22:24:24 That's not rare at all here, mayuresh. 22:24:35 my familly has 3 professional cooker 22:24:37 oh, i hadn't known 22:24:44 in my father's side 22:24:44 jyf: wrong use of term 22:24:58 jyf: you've to say, your family has 3 professional _cooks_ 22:25:03 sorry, my english is not that good , just correct me :] 22:25:11 jyf: cooker is what you cook food in 22:25:15 jyf: never mind 22:25:18 okay 22:25:31 jyf: just keep an open mind and a willingness to lean (which you do have) 22:25:38 mayuresh: i sometimes hopes british could conques china at 1840 22:25:38 lean -> learn :) 22:25:46 ha ha ha... 22:26:15 jyf: Why? Because you want China to be like every place else the British conquered, partitioned and left a flaming royal mess? 22:26:19 i am not joking, my comments have 40+ likes at that article 22:26:27 china would have lost it's identity the same way india did 22:26:35 India/Pakistan divide. 22:26:36 ttmrichter: because then we chinese could use english from born 22:26:41 like indian does 22:26:44 And this is good because...? 22:26:57 and as a programmer its very good for me to learn knowledges and earn money 22:27:16 jyf: only urban indians have a fairly good grasp over english 22:27:28 the rest of the country still speaks vernacular tounges 22:27:39 mayuresh: isnt that english is your official language? 22:27:39 tongues 22:27:47 jyf: nah, hindi is 22:27:58 oop 22:28:15 jyf: nobody in southern india gives a rats-shit about hindi anyways 22:28:16 anyway, i just think its good to use a common language 22:28:32 if you really like chinese language, you could still use it 22:28:50 jyf: in india, we speak over 10 different languages with numerous regional dialects :) 22:29:18 its just like mandarin, i live in sourthernchina , mandarin is very different compared to our own dialects 22:29:33 yes, but you have cantonese and mandarin 22:29:35 mayuresh: not many 22:30:24 mayuresh: There's a lot more than just Cantonese and Mandarin. 22:30:27 we have hindi, marathi, gujarati, bhojpuri, oriya, malyalam, tamil, kannada, bengali, urdu, etc 22:30:32 mayuresh: nope, in my hometown , we have 6 dialects in just a area of 9807 km square 22:30:43 jyf: that's awesome 22:30:50 jyf: but they are all dialects 22:30:57 cantonese cant know what i am talking about if i speak my dialect 22:31:07 jyf: out here we are screwed up because we have over 10 _different_ languages 22:31:12 Off the top of my head the dialect FAMILIES in China are Putonghua (Mandarin), Yue (Cantonese), Wu (Shanghaiese), Min, Gan, Hakka ... and I want to say Hu, but I'm not sure. 22:31:40 mayuresh: its dialects in theory, but in reallife, people cant talk each other, i think its just different language 22:31:48 golly, that's quite a lot, but don't you have the same base alphabet? 22:31:49 mayuresh: Mandarin and Cantonese are called "dialects" for political reasons. In reality they're about as close together as French and Portuguese. 22:32:13 ttmrichter: oh man, then the condition out there in china is as bad as in india 22:32:14 And local dialects like the ones jyf is talking about are like Spanish and Catalan. 22:32:33 mayuresh: Not quite as bad because there is one officially mandated language that everybody in principle must learn. 22:32:39 mayuresh: and there's a historical reason 22:32:42 But yeah, it can get pretty bad. 22:32:44 india is a _royal_ mess, you know what i mean! ;) 22:33:16 mandarin mixed many word from mongolia and other nations 22:33:43 Simplified the language tremendously in the process. 22:33:49 Yue is nasty. 22:33:54 And Hakka is ... ugh. 22:33:54 while the sourthern chinese sometimes hold the ancient pronunciation 22:34:05 i need to have a meeting 22:34:26 jyf: thanks for the information 22:34:28 :) 22:42:21 --- quit: Bahman (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 22:45:24 --- join: Bahman (~Bahman@2.144.0.29) joined #forth 22:50:53 see you guys later 22:51:07 --- quit: mayuresh (Quit: "off to lunch") 23:26:47 --- nick: ASau` -> ASau 23:43:28 --- quit: asie (Quit: I'll probably come back in either 20 minutes or 8 hours.) 23:47:33 jyf: my guess is that's because you don't have Central Radio, Central Television, and Mandatory Military Service. 23:48:07 jyf: when we got that in SU all dialects nearly disappeared within twenty years. 23:49:46 IIRC, French did approximatly the same. 23:54:27 ASau: China has central radio, central television and mandatory military service. 23:54:54 (Well, the "military service" part is a joke, but that's beside the point.) 23:55:09 --- quit: Azel (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 23:56:18 No idea then. 23:56:56 They must be doing something wrong, 'cause the effect of those in SU and France is quite known. :) 23:57:33 This presumes that homogeneity is a good thing, of course. 23:58:22 --- quit: LinearInterpol (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 23:59:04 Linguists who tried to describe disappearing dialects in Russia had to go over distant villages and talk to women _almost_exclusively_. 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/13.11.17