00:00:00 --- log: started forth/13.11.14 00:30:40 --- quit: carc (Quit: QUIT) 00:31:10 --- join: carc (~carc@unaffiliated/carc) joined #forth 00:33:37 --- quit: malyn (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 00:43:07 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 00:51:26 --- join: Tod-Autojoined (~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined #forth 00:52:58 --- join: nighty-_ (~nighty@static-68-179-124-161.ptr.terago.net) joined #forth 00:59:45 --- join: c00kiemon5ter (~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter) joined #forth 00:59:45 --- join: Adeon (~valaat@109.73.169.52) joined #forth 01:00:57 --- quit: nighty- (*.net *.split) 01:00:57 --- quit: TodPunk (*.net *.split) 01:02:08 hey this is neat: http://repl.it/M1U 01:02:13 online forth repl 01:02:25 or evaluator anyway 01:03:20 dont you remember jeforth? 01:03:24 yeah 01:03:44 i know there are a number of them 01:35:48 --- part: dessos left #forth 01:55:12 --- join: john_metcalf (~digital_w@87.113.178.250) joined #forth 02:05:47 --- join: LinearInterpol (~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com) joined #forth 02:11:51 --- quit: LinearInterpol (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 02:15:14 --- quit: Bahman (Quit: Leaving.) 02:22:29 --- join: true-grue (~quassel@176.14.239.113) joined #forth 02:45:10 --- quit: kludge` (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 02:45:27 --- quit: john_metcalf (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 02:48:56 --- join: kludge` (~comet@unaffiliated/espiral) joined #forth 03:49:06 --- join: LinearInterpol (~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com) joined #forth 03:51:10 --- quit: ErhardtMundt (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 03:54:34 --- join: ErhardtMundt (~ErhardtMu@host111-56-dynamic.44-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined #forth 04:19:10 --- quit: LinearInterpol (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 05:02:51 --- join: nighty^ (~nighty@lns-bzn-49f-62-147-170-46.adsl.proxad.net) joined #forth 05:04:56 --- join: LinearInterpol (~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us) joined #forth 05:13:02 --- join: Zarutian (~zarutian@194-144-84-110.du.xdsl.is) joined #forth 05:19:40 --- join: john_metcalf (~digital_w@87.113.178.250) joined #forth 05:55:01 --- join: mayuresh (~mayuresh@triband-mum-120.60.147.40.mtnl.net.in) joined #forth 05:55:27 hello :) 05:56:00 jyf: please check your mailbox for my suggestions to your problem statement 06:03:41 --- quit: mayuresh (Quit: Leaving) 06:13:02 --- join: mayuresh (~mayuresh@triband-mum-120.60.147.40.mtnl.net.in) joined #forth 06:37:47 --- quit: mayuresh (Quit: "off for dinner") 07:04:03 --- join: Bahman (~Bahman@2.146.60.196) joined #forth 07:07:39 --- join: mayuresh (~mayuresh@triband-mum-120.60.147.40.mtnl.net.in) joined #forth 07:08:04 hello :) 07:17:19 --- quit: mayuresh (Quit: "off to bed") 07:25:12 --- quit: Zarutian (Quit: Zarutian) 07:58:49 --- quit: LinearInterpol (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 08:14:15 --- join: LinearInterpol (~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us) joined #forth 08:42:03 --- join: mark4 (~mark4@cpe-192-136-220-10.tx.res.rr.com) joined #forth 08:55:53 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-98-210-219-91.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 08:56:02 --- quit: Bahman (Quit: Leaving.) 09:03:53 --- quit: nighty^ (Read error: Operation timed out) 09:05:46 --- join: nighty^ (~nighty@lns-bzn-49f-62-147-170-46.adsl.proxad.net) joined #forth 09:11:13 --- join: w0rm_x (~w0rm@client-81-107-143-174.midd.adsl.virginm.net) joined #forth 09:14:43 --- quit: w0rm_x (Client Quit) 09:17:07 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 09:31:59 --- join: flyback- (~flyback@c-67-163-147-45.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined #forth 09:39:05 --- join: kumul (~mool@adsl-64-237-227-33.prtc.net) joined #forth 09:41:40 --- quit: LinearInterpol (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 09:43:54 --- join: asie (~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl) joined #forth 10:02:59 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-98-210-219-91.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 10:10:49 --- join: Bahman (~Bahman@2.146.60.196) joined #forth 10:36:06 --- join: Zarutian (~zarutian@194-144-84-110.du.xdsl.is) joined #forth 10:45:15 --- join: hagna (~hagna@63-235-131-194.dia.static.qwest.net) joined #forth 10:56:00 --- quit: nisstyre (Quit: Leaving) 11:07:19 --- quit: Bahman (Quit: Leaving.) 11:08:13 what's the development like for GA chips? Can I use version control and automated unit tests? 11:09:25 Sure, but you need to create it all by yourself :) 11:09:46 hah 11:09:58 you know other people have done that better than I could 11:10:04 --- join: LinearInterpol (~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us) joined #forth 11:10:18 i don't think it's a problew with polyforth 11:10:18 true-grue: would I also have to do tcp/ip and bluetooth etc. myself? 11:10:34 with colorforth it's all incredibly low level and you're working with old school blocks 11:11:28 tangentstorm: how can I try polyforth? 11:14:23 hagna: hrm. i don't actually know. 11:14:30 lemme see if it comes with. 11:14:38 I see stuff named pF 11:14:43 i've only used colorforth 11:16:18 ... i think that's polyforth but i have no idea how to use it or run it 11:17:14 hrm... maybe i misunderstood what polyforth is 11:17:28 tangentstorm: so have you got an eval board? 11:17:31 tangentstorm: I'm afraid that with PolyForth there is almost no point in using GA chip. PolyForth interpreter is slow and sequential. As far as I know there were no attempts to run several PolyForth interpreters on the GA nodes and do some interconnection between them. 11:22:00 hagna: no, colorforth runs locally and it also has a simulator 11:22:16 i have a screenshot somewhere... 11:22:33 tangentstorm: yeah I can run it in wine I see the colors and I can add numbers 11:22:44 without a third party library or anything 11:23:34 but if I want to talk TCP/IP over ethernet I guess I would, right? 11:27:09 https://plus.google.com/115310700190572540735/posts/doPNRJ3cUxZ 11:27:22 good lord google plus is the most unintuitive website 11:27:53 sorry, i didn't get much further than taking the course and running the simulation 11:28:38 as far as i know there's no specific support for ethernet on the chip. 11:28:49 ok 1 1 + is 2 but what is this animation? 11:29:31 it's a screencapture of the simulator that comes with colorforth 11:29:36 :) 11:30:00 it's showing some mobile code that's moving around between different nodes 11:30:24 the upper right corner shows the chip with the 144 cores 11:30:50 the ones in blue are also represented on the left 11:31:22 ahh ok that's interesting 11:31:36 i think the left side is showing the stacks. not really sure. 11:32:04 actually, i think that's what it is doing, yes... and the lower right side is showing like a debugger for one specific cell 11:32:12 probably the one with the red x 11:32:48 i think you just type 'sim' to start this thing 11:32:51 * tangentstorm tries it 11:33:38 not sim 11:35:00 yeah.. i don't know. 11:35:19 i've forgotten how to use the block editor too, so i can't page through the source at the moment 11:35:31 though i believe there's an html dump of all the blocks 11:35:59 oh yeah.. you should have an html file in the directory 11:36:11 for me it's EVB001-01g.html 11:36:16 my install's pretty old though 11:36:33 02b must be the latest 11:36:54 so if you open that, you should see the blocks 11:37:12 they're laid out side by side, with the code blocks on the left and the shadow blocks (documentation/comments) on the right 11:37:54 --- quit: Zarutian (Quit: Zarutian) 11:38:03 for me the headers say stuff like '18 list' 11:38:16 that's the command to list the code in block 18 11:38:45 the documentation for block 18 is in block 19 11:39:02 anyway somewhere in this file is the simulator :) 11:39:31 haha 11:39:47 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQft5AuuA2Q&list=UUcPVWHEOzmya0_VRQxWtjtw ok this sort of answers the polyforth question 11:39:49 it starts on block 144 ! how typically mnemonic of them 11:40:00 the command is 'softsim' 11:40:18 ahh cool 11:40:35 --- join: RJones (~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us) joined #forth 11:41:28 there's also a tool in here to edit the characters (font) 11:43:21 so polyforth is a vm that runs on a corner of the chip 11:44:05 --- quit: LinearInterpol (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 11:45:01 --- quit: RJones (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 11:45:43 yeah 11:46:01 i was confused before. sorry. 11:46:19 no problem it helped 11:49:57 --- join: w0rm_x (~w0rm@client-81-107-143-174.midd.adsl.virginm.net) joined #forth 11:53:15 --- quit: asie (Quit: I'll probably come back in either 20 minutes or 8 hours.) 12:11:36 --- nick: john_metcalf -> impomatic 12:30:01 --- join: Azel (~Azel@83.82.69.86.rev.sfr.net) joined #forth 12:32:41 --- join: nisstyre (~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre) joined #forth 12:34:32 --- part: w0rm_x left #forth 12:37:43 --- quit: nisstyre (Disconnected by services) 12:38:02 --- join: nisstyre (~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre) joined #forth 12:53:39 --- quit: true-grue (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12:58:37 --- join: Zarutian (~zarutian@194-144-84-110.du.xdsl.is) joined #forth 13:16:50 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 13:19:01 --- join: LinearInterpol (~RJones@bb-216-195-185-231.gwi.net) joined #forth 13:19:13 --- quit: LinearInterpol (Remote host closed the connection) 13:50:51 --- quit: yiyus (Remote host closed the connection) 14:07:25 --- quit: nisstyre (Quit: Leaving) 14:33:20 --- quit: Azel (Remote host closed the connection) 14:33:43 --- join: Azel (~Azel@83.82.69.86.rev.sfr.net) joined #forth 14:59:50 --- join: w0rm_x (~w0rm@client-81-107-143-174.midd.adsl.virginm.net) joined #forth 15:01:01 --- part: w0rm_x left #forth 15:10:40 --- join: yiyus (1242712427@je.je.je) joined #forth 15:17:49 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-98-210-219-91.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 15:22:05 --- quit: mnemnion (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 15:33:16 --- quit: nighty^ (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke) 15:33:17 --- join: nighty^_ (~nighty@lns-bzn-49f-62-147-170-46.adsl.proxad.net) joined #forth 15:37:35 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-98-210-219-91.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 15:55:35 --- join: LinearInterpol (~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com) joined #forth 16:01:27 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 16:09:41 --- join: nisstyre (~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre) joined #forth 16:15:28 --- quit: nisstyre (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 16:17:12 --- join: nisstyre (~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre) joined #forth 16:36:07 --- join: mayuresh (~mayuresh@triband-mum-120.60.151.207.mtnl.net.in) joined #forth 16:36:12 hello :) 16:38:22 anyone awake? 16:38:23 :) 16:39:24 oh btw mayuresh my answer was no from yesterday 16:39:30 i dont even remember the question 16:39:51 i guess the question was whether you've played with amforth... :) 16:40:21 No. 16:40:22 Sleeping. 16:40:27 :D 16:40:36 good morning. :) 16:40:46 08:30!! 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