00:00:00 --- log: started forth/13.09.09 00:51:04 --- join: epicmonkey (~epicmonke@188.134.41.114) joined #forth 01:14:08 --- quit: epicmonkey (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 02:20:04 --- join: true-grue (~quassel@89-178-130-97.broadband.corbina.ru) joined #forth 02:34:36 --- quit: kludge` (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 02:36:44 --- join: kludge` (~comet@unaffiliated/espiral) joined #forth 02:44:14 --- join: epicmonkey (~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net) joined #forth 04:03:02 --- quit: Eth|cal (Read error: Connection timed out) 04:03:36 --- join: Eth|cal (~sam@ppp59-167-172-238.static.internode.on.net) joined #forth 04:20:17 --- quit: Eth|cal (Read error: Connection timed out) 04:21:05 --- join: Eth|cal (~sam@ppp59-167-172-238.static.internode.on.net) joined #forth 04:37:51 --- quit: Eth|cal (Read error: Connection timed out) 04:47:35 --- join: ASau` (~user@p4FF97651.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 04:48:40 --- quit: ASau (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04:54:59 --- join: Eth|cal (~sam@ppp59-167-172-238.static.internode.on.net) joined #forth 05:11:38 --- quit: Eth|cal (Read error: Connection timed out) 05:12:28 --- quit: Bahman (Quit: Leaving.) 05:21:51 --- join: nighty^ (~nighty@lns-bzn-49f-62-147-170-46.adsl.proxad.net) joined #forth 05:30:08 --- join: Eth|cal (~sam@pa49-180-116-60.pa.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined #forth 05:55:29 --- join: RodgerTheGreat (~rodger@97-88-148-161.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) joined #forth 05:59:34 --- quit: RodgerTheGreat (Client Quit) 05:59:42 --- join: RodgerTheGreat (~rodger@97-88-148-161.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) joined #forth 06:44:38 --- quit: karswell (Read error: Operation timed out) 06:46:47 --- join: karswell` (~user@228.33.208.46.dyn.plus.net) joined #forth 07:12:21 --- quit: lazyden (Quit: lazyden) 07:51:41 --- join: nisstyre (~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre) joined #forth 07:56:35 --- join: _spt_ (~Jaat@host-92-12-208-202.as43234.net) joined #forth 07:56:35 --- quit: _spt_ (Changing host) 07:56:35 --- join: _spt_ (~Jaat@unaffiliated/-spt-/x-5624824) joined #forth 07:57:02 --- quit: epicmonkey (Read error: Operation timed out) 08:04:26 --- quit: _spt_ (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 08:15:47 --- quit: nisstyre (Quit: Leaving) 08:17:24 --- quit: Eth|cal (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 09:15:38 --- join: _spt_ (~Jaat@host-92-12-221-221.as43234.net) joined #forth 09:15:38 --- quit: _spt_ (Changing host) 09:15:38 --- join: _spt_ (~Jaat@unaffiliated/-spt-/x-5624824) joined #forth 09:57:41 --- nick: ASau` -> ASau 10:39:57 --- join: _spt1_ (~Jaat@host-92-12-219-80.as43234.net) joined #forth 10:42:40 --- quit: _spt_ (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 11:27:00 --- join: epicmonkey (~epicmonke@188.134.41.114) joined #forth 12:04:32 --- nick: _spt1_ -> _spt_ 12:07:16 --- quit: _spt_ (Changing host) 12:07:16 --- join: _spt_ (~Jaat@unaffiliated/-spt-/x-5624824) joined #forth 12:15:34 ttmrichter: how is the arm forth on stm coming? i was playing with a rpi and can't get even basic asm working - wondering if you played with a rpi and ran into this 12:18:13 --- quit: _spt_ (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 12:27:36 --- quit: epicmonkey (Remote host closed the connection) 12:29:32 --- join: epicmonkey (~epicmonke@188.134.41.114) joined #forth 12:48:24 --- join: JDat (JDat@89.248.91.5) joined #forth 13:08:32 --- quit: JDat () 13:10:05 --- quit: ASau (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 13:15:56 --- join: ASau (~user@p4FF97651.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 13:33:49 there's no ASM for rpi? 13:39:25 there is but it's not working for me on bare metal - read something about the stack location being the issue on newer hardware but still unable to bootstrap anything 13:40:15 i can only "sometimes" get a blinking LED and trying to figure out the cause. the linux OS ran just fine on it so assume it's something in my knowledge of arm asm or the hardware platform 13:40:43 --- quit: nighty^ (Remote host closed the connection) 13:53:21 --- quit: epicmonkey (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 14:03:09 ah. are you trying to boot your own system on it? 14:20:44 yes - following this tutorial (as a start befor ei build a forth): http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/projects/raspberrypi/tutorials/os/ 14:21:17 i wanted a simple "hello, world" working aince arm is new to me before diving into a forth 14:21:33 but am getting caught up getting the sample code running reliably 14:22:46 next step is to go back into userland mode under linux and make sure it works there and under gdb. but that might introduce or fix issues b/c OS is setting up the CPU, stack, etc. 14:52:35 --- quit: dys (Remote host closed the connection) 15:24:59 --- quit: tangentstorm (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 15:46:12 --- join: Bahman (~Bahman@2.147.56.110) joined #forth 15:49:32 --- quit: true-grue (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15:50:55 --- join: Anarch (~olaf@c-67-183-64-49.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined #forth 15:51:13 bluekelp: I'm not using an RPi so I can't answer for that, but I've got assembler going to my STM32 eval board just fine. 15:55:33 --- join: RodgerTheGreat_ (~rodger@97-88-148-161.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) joined #forth 15:55:33 --- quit: RodgerTheGreat (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15:55:34 --- nick: RodgerTheGreat_ -> RodgerTheGreat 15:57:38 --- join: Eth|cal (~sam@ppp59-167-172-238.static.internode.on.net) joined #forth 16:05:04 it might be the bootloader for the rpi and how it sets things up. frustrating 16:05:33 i haven't dabbled witht eh stm yet to get gdb attaching to it, etc. - or even flashing new code 16:26:42 bluekelp: For the STM32*DISCOVERY boards, the secret ingredients are the "arm-none-eabi-*" toolchain and the openocd project. 16:32:52 --- quit: jevin (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 16:33:02 --- join: lazyden (~lazyden@58.185.121.38) joined #forth 16:33:53 bluekelp: https://launchpad.net/gcc-arm-embedded 16:38:29 open ocd - that's the one i forgot. i pulled the toolchain already - so unless it's generating bogus opcodes... 16:38:46 ttmrichter: can you debug on the board? gdb would go a long way toward helping me, i think 16:39:34 Yes, with that pair of tools you can source-debug on the board. 16:46:02 --- join: Nisstyre-laptop (~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre) joined #forth 16:47:03 --- nick: Nisstyre-laptop -> nisstyre 16:48:04 which usb port do I use? the board has two and i gather one is the stm32 and another is a support chip that's roughly as powerful, if not more, no? 16:51:21 STM32F4DISCOVERY? 16:51:36 You use the one with the mini-USB connector, not the micro-USB. 16:51:51 The micro-USB connector is the USB-OTG thing that the F4 exposes. 16:52:00 The mini-USB is the STLink connector. 16:53:23 ok thx. i'll dig my mini cables out and try after i get it to compile. any chance you've done it succesfully on OSX? 17:16:49 --- nick: nisstyre -> Nisstyre-laptop 17:19:26 --- nick: Nisstyre-laptop -> nisstyre 17:22:04 --- nick: nisstyre -> nisstyre-laptop 17:22:54 --- join: nisstyre (~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre) joined #forth 17:28:08 --- join: tangentstorm (~michal@108-218-151-22.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined #forth 17:35:04 --- quit: nisstyre (Quit: Leaving) 18:56:38 --- quit: dkordic (Quit: Ex-Chat) 19:30:07 --- join: nisstyre (~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre) joined #forth 20:59:08 --- quit: nisstyre-laptop (Quit: Leaving) 21:55:16 --- quit: RodgerTheGreat (Quit: RodgerTheGreat) 23:08:25 --- quit: tangentstorm (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 23:11:34 --- quit: jyc_ (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in) 23:11:56 --- join: jyc (~jyc@173.245.6.163) joined #forth 23:13:12 --- join: tangentstorm (~michal@108-218-151-22.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined #forth 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/13.09.09