00:00:00 --- log: started forth/13.08.06 00:27:21 --- join: epicmonkey (~epicmonke@188.134.41.114) joined #forth 00:36:51 --- join: Kumul (~nmz@adsl-64-237-232-136.prtc.net) joined #forth 00:36:52 --- quit: Kumul (Client Quit) 00:48:37 ASau: much ado about nothing IMHO 00:50:19 --- quit: epicmonkey (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 00:53:16 --- join: dys (~user@2a01:1e8:e100:8296:21a:4dff:fe4e:273a) joined #forth 02:09:59 --- join: epicmonkey (~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net) joined #forth 02:29:55 --- join: true-grue (~quassel@95-25-104-50.broadband.corbina.ru) joined #forth 02:31:07 --- quit: kludge` (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 02:33:35 --- join: kludge` (~comet@unaffiliated/espiral) joined #forth 03:31:52 --- quit: kludge` (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 03:59:06 --- join: kludge` (~comet@unaffiliated/espiral) joined #forth 04:03:22 --- join: john_metcalf (~john_metc@84.93.91.56) joined #forth 04:42:44 --- join: ASau` (~user@p4FF96FA0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 04:43:25 --- nick: Adeon_ -> Adeon 04:43:34 ASau: I think novice package is best used as reference. Using it teaches bad behaviour and hides the hardest parts of forth which are quite usable anyway 04:45:46 --- quit: ASau (Read error: Operation timed out) 04:49:24 Vuokko: Novice package? 04:49:46 --- join: karswell (~user@87.112.183.62) joined #forth 04:53:36 http://www.forth.org/novice.html 05:02:08 Hugh Aguilar! He is the funniest author on c.l.f :) 05:03:05 sometimes Gavino gives better laughs 05:03:34 he surely has a mission 05:11:51 --- join: nighty^ (~nighty@lns-bzn-49f-62-147-170-46.adsl.proxad.net) joined #forth 05:50:22 --- quit: bluekelp (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 05:50:38 --- join: bluekelp (~bluekelp@bluekelp.com) joined #forth 08:19:32 --- join: Kumul (~nmz@adsl-64-237-232-136.prtc.net) joined #forth 09:42:32 --- nick: ASau` -> ASau 09:48:38 --- quit: goingretro (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09:54:10 --- join: goingretro (~kbmaniac@host109-155-40-193.range109-155.btcentralplus.com) joined #forth 09:57:47 --- join: MayDaniel (~MayDaniel@unaffiliated/maydaniel) joined #forth 10:41:24 --- quit: epicmonkey (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10:53:28 --- join: fantazo (~fantazo@213.129.230.10) joined #forth 11:07:28 --- quit: fantazo (Quit: leaving) 11:51:46 --- join: epicmonkey (~epicmonke@188.134.41.114) joined #forth 12:09:35 --- quit: ASau (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 12:10:40 --- join: dessos (~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined #forth 12:11:30 --- part: dessos left #forth 12:19:31 --- join: ASau (~user@p4FF96FA0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 13:09:32 this is a couple years old, but I just saw it for the first time last night: 13:09:34 http://www.yosefk.com/blog/my-history-with-forth-stack-machines.html 13:10:02 really good essay about the forth mentality, followed by an interesting discussion by various forth enthusiasts. 13:13:23 indeed, thanks for sharing 13:18:42 tangentstorm: I'd like to see the source for the Jeff Fox quote, that's a good one 13:20:04 Basically, people who know anything besides Forth are on one side, Forth and Factor pushers are on another. 13:20:12 Sept 28, 2007, "Forth Enthusiasts are not all the same." 13:20:19 http://www.ultratechnology.com/blog.htm 13:20:25 search page for frogs 13:20:55 tangentstorm: thanks 13:21:09 Well I think there are quite few dead frog people in the discussion. :) 13:22:42 Kragen is a very smart guy. He's the author of stoneknifeforth (which is really more of a bootstrapping stack machine with single-character mnemonic bytecodes) but he's basically writing as an onlooker who thinks it's interesting but hard to actually use. 13:25:24 tangentstorm: did you see Jeff's reply to the blog post? 13:25:31 10/22/10? 13:25:52 i read all of it but after a while i stopped registering names :) 13:26:21 hrm.. oh you mean on the ultratechnology site? no 13:37:15 he was a good writer. 13:50:28 --- join: KipIngram1 (~KipIngram@85.17.164.207) joined #forth 14:00:34 --- quit: true-grue (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14:01:43 --- quit: epicmonkey (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 14:39:21 --- quit: nighty^ (Remote host closed the connection) 15:12:42 --- quit: KipIngram1 (Remote host closed the connection) 15:27:12 --- quit: Nisstyre (Quit: Leaving) 15:57:52 --- quit: KipIngram (Remote host closed the connection) 15:58:48 --- join: KipIngram (~KipIngram@85.17.164.207) joined #forth 15:59:22 --- quit: MayDaniel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17:44:36 --- quit: ASau (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17:47:40 --- quit: djinni (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 17:49:29 --- join: djinni (~djinni@li125-242.members.linode.com) joined #forth 18:21:52 --- quit: Eth|cal (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 18:22:37 --- join: Eth|cal (~sam@ppp59-167-172-238.static.internode.on.net) joined #forth 18:46:13 --- quit: john_metcalf (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 19:33:23 --- join: john_metcalf (~john_metc@84.93.91.56) joined #forth 20:03:20 --- join: ZarutianWEB (c290546e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.144.84.110) joined #forth 20:14:04 --- quit: Kumul (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 21:20:49 --- quit: ZarutianWEB (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 23:31:09 --- join: ASau (~user@p4FF96FA0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/13.08.06