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Looked really inefficient. 16:08:53 --- quit: Tod-Work (Quit: Leaving) 16:16:39 --- join: barglfargl (~barglfarg@66-168-203-39.dhcp.gsvl.ga.charter.com) joined #forth 16:29:39 * tp is back (gone 08:56:07) 16:36:01 --- quit: ErhardtMundt (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 16:49:31 --- quit: ASau (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 16:51:45 --- join: ErhardtMundt (~Lawrence@host219-58-dynamic.245-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined #forth 16:55:43 --- join: ASau (~user@p4FF97755.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 16:58:40 --- quit: nighty^ (Remote host closed the connection) 17:00:52 --- quit: mtm (Quit: Leaving...) 17:11:15 --- quit: sirdancealo2 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17:12:11 --- join: sirdancealo2 (~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz) joined #forth 17:23:57 --- quit: barglfargl (Quit: leaving) 17:24:53 --- join: barglfargl (~barglfarg@66-168-203-39.dhcp.gsvl.ga.charter.com) joined #forth 17:29:38 --- quit: ErhardtMundt (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17:40:36 --- join: ErhardtMundt (~Lawrence@host219-58-dynamic.245-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined #forth 18:03:21 --- quit: barglfargl (Quit: leaving) 18:33:14 --- quit: Kumul (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18:40:05 --- join: dto (~user@pool-96-252-62-13.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) joined #forth 19:25:10 --- join: bjorkintosh (~bjork@ip68-13-229-200.ok.ok.cox.net) joined #forth 19:47:50 ASau: but they dont limit on core only 19:48:15 Don't you guys realize that talking to trolls only encourages them? 19:48:49 ttmrichter: seems you very hate ASau 19:49:36 I hate trolls. 20:10:43 "As of the current version with the full CLI and internal functions, the operating system binary is only 16384 bytes." 20:10:48 -- http://www.returninfinity.com/baremetal.html 20:11:37 well if you dont want to remember the hex code by your brain, 16k is no different with 64k or 1m 20:14:15 --- quit: sirdancealo2 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20:19:13 --- join: sirdancealo2 (~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz) joined #forth 20:34:03 i was just looking for a nice modern 64-bit system 20:34:12 (to build on) 20:35:44 It lacks a network stack. I'm not sure I'd call that modern. 20:36:11 what do you need a network stack for? 20:36:34 you can run it inside a virtual machine 20:37:29 you need network i think 20:37:51 http://www.returninfinity.com/baremetalnode.html 20:38:21 the core OS has basic network io through ethernet packets, but it doesn't implement all that tcp/ip 20:38:49 it's really aimed at cloud stuff where you're going to launch 203948203498 of these things to do some task 20:39:22 it want to run on aws? 20:40:09 i think the idea is you have one node that handles talking to the internet (this orchestrator thing) and the others just do the bare minimum 20:59:37 Ok, latest update. I got the latest forthos build and source from the author and learned a bit about what's there and what's not. Much to be done. On the other hand, the entire image is defined in just 3,750 lines of source, and that includes blank lines, comments, etc. An entire bare metal operating system that one can read end to end in just a few hours 21:04:07 nicely researched 21:05:19 the author sounds helpful 21:06:50 nice, KipIngram 21:11:59 it would be nice to have that source in a conveniently browsable form 21:13:27 --- quit: Nisstyre (Quit: Leaving) 21:13:42 Author was very helpful. I will see what I can do about text-rendering the source. Given how regularly it's laid out I think I can use a bunch of dd commands in a Linux script. I have Ubuntu in dual boot. 21:14:17 Stay tuned... 21:14:42 Bed time now. Catch you all tomorrow. 21:24:09 cya 21:32:08 --- quit: dto (Remote host closed the connection) 21:34:29 KipIngram: If you can get that in plain text for reading, that would be sweet. My major problem with ForthOS was trying to piece it all together while it was running. 21:35:19 agreed 21:35:53 I managed to get an image running in QEmu, dink around a bit with it, but it was too much of a pain to explore properly 21:36:15 last time I played with it there was very little external documentation 21:36:37 if the source is readable and well-organized that should be easier to get ahold of 21:38:11 try this: https://github.com/ReturnInfinity/BareMetal 21:39:31 once git fetches everything, it takes about 1 second to assemble the OS and create a disk image for virtual box :) 21:41:56 only thing not working for me is running in qemu under freebsd. :/ 21:42:26 this thing doesn't require a boot loader. 21:45:56 what i'm thinking is that BareMetal might provide a simpler foundation for ForthOS 22:05:44 --- quit: ErhardtMundt (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 22:44:50 --- quit: c00kiemon5ter (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 22:45:14 --- join: c00kiemon5ter (~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter) joined #forth 23:17:21 --- quit: RodgerTheGreat (Quit: RodgerTheGreat) 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/13.07.09