00:00:00 --- log: started forth/13.06.10 00:05:49 --- join: Bahman (~Bahman@2.146.39.245) joined #forth 00:20:11 --- join: Mat2 (~claude@91-65-144-133-dynip.superkabel.de) joined #forth 00:20:29 --- quit: Mat2 (Client Quit) 00:36:05 --- quit: dto (Remote host closed the connection) 01:31:08 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 01:44:05 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@cm-171-98-97-11.revip7.asianet.co.th) joined #forth 02:13:37 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 02:25:56 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@180.183.138.165) joined #forth 02:48:18 --- join: proteus_guy (~proteusgu@180.183.136.7) joined #forth 02:51:54 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 02:52:50 --- join: nighty^ (~nighty@tin51-1-82-226-147-104.fbx.proxad.net) joined #forth 03:48:09 --- quit: bjorkintosh (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 03:48:16 --- join: epicmonkey (~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net) joined #forth 05:29:01 --- join: HaikuUser (vision@88.206.40.105) joined #forth 05:30:15 --- quit: Bahman (Quit: Leaving.) 05:46:14 --- quit: proteus_guy (Remote host closed the connection) 05:56:18 --- quit: beretta (Quit: Leaving) 06:02:13 --- join: robotustra (~robotustr@cable-11.246.173-140.electronicbox.net) joined #forth 06:22:48 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@ppp-58-8-108-185.revip2.asianet.co.th) joined #forth 06:34:01 --- nick: HaikuUser -> Kopa 06:47:23 --- join: dto (~user@pool-96-252-62-13.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) joined #forth 06:57:19 --- quit: mtm (Quit: Leaving...) 07:08:11 --- join: RodgerTheGreat (~rodger@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined #forth 07:16:45 --- quit: nighty^ (Remote host closed the connection) 07:23:44 --- join: Bahman (~Bahman@2.146.39.245) joined #forth 07:32:00 --- join: Tod-Work (~thansmann@50-202-143-210-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined #forth 07:53:32 --- join: albertone (~androirc@pD9E25179.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 07:58:33 --- join: mtm (~mtm@c-76-102-52-34.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 08:13:34 --- quit: Bahman (Quit: Leaving.) 08:41:32 --- part: Kopa left #forth 08:47:13 --- join: Bahman (~Bahman@2.146.39.245) joined #forth 08:51:36 --- quit: Bahman (Client Quit) 08:53:46 --- quit: albertone (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09:06:45 --- join: Bahman (~Bahman@2.146.39.245) joined #forth 09:17:47 --- join: ncv (~quassel@79.114.125.80) joined #forth 09:17:47 --- quit: ncv (Changing host) 09:17:47 --- join: ncv (~quassel@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #forth 09:24:25 --- quit: Bahman (Quit: Leaving.) 09:26:36 --- join: Bahman (~Bahman@2.146.39.245) joined #forth 09:42:55 --- join: itsy (~digital_w@146.90.40.43) joined #forth 09:59:11 --- quit: Bahman (Quit: Leaving.) 10:07:43 --- join: nighty^ (~nighty@tin51-1-82-226-147-104.fbx.proxad.net) joined #forth 10:26:37 --- quit: dto (Remote host closed the connection) 10:30:42 --- join: ErhardtMundt_ (~quassel@host214-87-dynamic.22-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined #forth 10:36:37 --- quit: sirdancealo2 (*.net *.split) 10:36:38 --- quit: ErhardtMundt (*.net *.split) 10:36:38 --- quit: segher (*.net *.split) 10:36:39 --- quit: cataska (*.net *.split) 11:22:58 --- quit: ASau (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 11:30:25 --- join: ASau (~user@p5797EE78.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 11:43:01 --- join: segher (~segher@5ED3C8DF.cm-7-4d.dynamic.ziggo.nl) joined #forth 11:48:32 --- join: sirdancealo2 (~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz) joined #forth 11:51:11 --- nick: ErhardtMundt_ -> ErhardtMundt 12:00:54 --- join: Bahman (~Bahman@2.146.39.245) joined #forth 12:00:56 --- quit: Bahman (Client Quit) 12:13:11 --- join: Mat2 (~claude@91-65-144-133-dynip.superkabel.de) joined #forth 12:13:14 hi 12:13:25 --- quit: epicmonkey (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 12:40:17 --- quit: kulp (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 12:47:38 --- join: kulp (~kulp@unaffiliated/kulp) joined #forth 12:56:26 --- quit: ncv (Remote host closed the connection) 13:00:22 --- quit: Mat2 (Quit: Verlassend) 13:21:14 --- join: epicmonkey (~epicmonke@188.134.41.113) joined #forth 13:53:40 --- join: Tod-Work_ (~thansmann@50-202-143-210-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined #forth 13:57:28 --- quit: Tod-Work (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 14:00:22 --- join: john_metcalf (~john_metc@146.90.40.43) joined #forth 14:51:03 --- join: dto (~user@pool-96-252-62-13.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) joined #forth 15:13:14 --- quit: sirdancealo2 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 15:16:46 --- join: sirdancealo2 (~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz) joined #forth 15:58:59 hello 15:59:09 hi 15:59:19 gday from Australia 15:59:21 what's the best forth implementation? 15:59:43 it's night in the old continent :) 15:59:45 I'm a Forth beginner, definitely not qualified to answer that 16:00:07 9am here in New South Wales 16:00:30 I guess one would probably ask 'best for what" ? 16:04:44 --- quit: epicmonkey (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 16:06:16 --- quit: Tod-Work_ (Quit: Leaving) 16:10:19 ErhardtMundt - I agree; that's the starting point. What is your application of interest? 16:11:09 I don't have any particular purpose in mind 16:11:19 Ok - well, that's a purpose. :-) 16:11:26 learning / familiarizing / etc. 16:11:30 What's your operating system? 16:11:55 that could be a criteria: I want to use it on any* os 16:12:10 (I currently use 4 different os) 16:12:28 pForth is extremely portable. 16:12:42 I don't really care a whole lot for it, but mostly for performance reasons. 16:14:12 let's view that way: what are the biggest implementations and what are those best at? 16:16:32 I already installed gforth 16:16:35 how's that? 16:16:44 Do you want a free one, or do you want to pay? 16:16:53 gforth is a pretty major one, and does a *lot*. 16:17:55 gforth is a ANS forth so should be as 'good' and any others ? 16:17:56 It's certainly not a bad place to start learning. 16:18:13 I don't know if it will be available on all four of your systems unless you are able to build it yourself, though. 16:19:04 I don't think it would be worth to pay 16:19:30 I expect you will wind up using gforth, then. 16:19:35 Rock and roll. 16:19:49 Absolutely nothing wrong with that as a place to learn. 16:20:02 there's also PFE 16:20:11 Do you own any books? I recommend "Thinking Forth" by Leo Brodie. You can find a pdf online. 16:20:53 well, I'm ready to try other implementations 16:20:59 KipIngram, I just received my Cortex F0 chips from Texas, a few minutes ago, they're tiny about 5mmx5mm, have 64k flash and will run Riscy Pygness tethered Forth 16:21:12 it's why I'm here, I just only know gforth for now 16:21:13 :-) 16:21:17 :) 16:21:36 they cost about 0.50usd each 16:21:46 and no, I don't have books about forth 16:21:53 not bad for a 32 bit micrfo 16:22:05 going to fetch that pdf 16:22:08 thanks KipIngram 16:23:05 You bet. 16:31:57 --- join: bjorkintosh (~bjork@ip68-13-229-200.ok.ok.cox.net) joined #forth 16:36:23 --- join: dto-00 (~user@pool-96-252-62-13.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) joined #forth 16:36:29 When starting forth was written, there were no standard. Some parts are different in standard forth compared to book. However it is propably the first place where people start with forth 16:37:19 And if you want to have forth in your C program, check ficl. It was my first touch to fort when I did some software testing 16:37:27 --- quit: dto (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 16:37:52 I tested C-program and wrote testbench with forth :) 16:38:04 --- nick: dto-00 -> dto 16:47:50 RodgerTheGreat: hey. 16:48:10 --- quit: nighty^ (Remote host closed the connection) 16:53:25 --- quit: itsy (Quit: itsy) 17:07:31 --- quit: tangentstorm (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 17:10:27 --- quit: Eth|cal (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 17:10:38 --- join: tangentstorm (~michal@108.218.151.22) joined #forth 17:17:15 --- join: protist (~protist@108.174.69.111.dynamic.snap.net.nz) joined #forth 17:28:01 --- quit: tathi (Quit: leaving) 18:26:12 --- quit: mtm (Quit: Leaving...) 18:46:41 --- quit: dto (Remote host closed the connection) 19:01:34 --- join: Eth|cal (~sam@ppp59-167-172-238.static.internode.on.net) joined #forth 19:19:28 --- join: dto (~user@pool-96-252-62-13.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) joined #forth 19:26:11 --- join: mtm (~mtm@c-24-130-130-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 19:59:43 --- quit: protist (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 20:05:42 --- join: cataska (~cataska@210.64.6.233) joined #forth 20:07:45 --- quit: dto (Remote host closed the connection) 20:31:51 --- join: dto (~user@pool-96-252-62-13.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) joined #forth 20:41:26 --- quit: dto (Remote host closed the connection) 20:42:11 --- join: dto (~user@pool-96-252-62-13.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) joined #forth 20:46:39 --- join: Bahman (~Bahman@2.146.39.245) joined #forth 20:54:24 --- quit: sirdancealo2 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21:08:17 --- join: Nisstyre-laptop (~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre) joined #forth 21:08:35 --- join: sirdancealo2 (~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz) joined #forth 21:51:08 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 21:58:39 --- quit: robotustra (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 22:00:27 --- quit: Eth|cal (Remote host closed the connection) 22:15:02 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@180.183.136.7) joined #forth 23:02:02 --- quit: dto (Remote host closed the connection) 23:12:01 --- join: protist (~protist@101.173.69.111.dynamic.snap.net.nz) joined #forth 23:13:25 --- quit: RodgerTheGreat (Quit: RodgerTheGreat) 23:21:50 --- quit: protist (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/13.06.10