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15:49:11 yeah 15:49:20 it's probably because it's trying to do things that trap 15:49:23 I don't understand why NaCl exists 15:49:40 i think NaCl exists as a stepping stone to pNaCl 15:49:45 which is slightly more defensible 15:49:49 "hey let's invent a bytecode. Y'know, a subset of x86 would be convenient, wouldn't it?" 15:50:06 wouldn't it INDEED 15:50:37 x87 ftw! :P 15:50:44 blegh 15:50:48 i just saw some x87 code the other day 15:50:50 and i was like YYYYYYYY 15:51:00 the FPU? 15:51:04 yeah 15:51:07 fuuuck 15:51:20 my first computer was a 386sx 15:51:23 no fpu :D 15:51:33 Scientific Forth has a whole chapter about writing your own forth extension to target the x87 15:51:44 hmm come to think of it i may well be able to create a better CPU from scratch than my first computer had 15:51:46 x87 machinecode everywhere 15:51:47 eventually 15:51:49 haha 15:51:56 that didn't age well ! 15:52:02 RodgerTheGreat, tangentstorm is working on his openGL-based terminal thing: http://i.imgur.com/gkmb9Iu.png 15:52:06 most books are like that 15:52:07 then again people are going to be saying the same about SSE and AVX in decade 15:52:30 c00kiemon5ter: that looks pretty cool 15:56:20 --- quit: dto (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 16:02:01 --- join: dto (~user@pool-96-252-62-13.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) joined #forth 16:08:28 --- quit: Tod-Work (Quit: Leaving) 16:09:12 --- quit: _spt_ (Quit: bye) 16:09:30 --- join: kumul (~mool@c-76-26-237-95.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined #forth 16:09:32 --- join: Nisstyre-laptop (~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre) joined #forth 16:12:48 --- quit: epicmonkey (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 16:19:55 --- join: yours_truly (~yours@mc-191-248.IPReg.mcmaster.ca) joined #forth 16:20:19 --- quit: Nisstyre-laptop (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16:20:35 --- quit: yours_truly (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16:21:12 --- join: Nisstyre-laptop (~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre) joined #forth 16:33:06 i was just about to say "that looks like a nice language" and now i notice its pascal! it looks great... whats with the hate? geez! 16:33:41 pascal can be nice 16:55:03 thanks c00kiemon5ter :) 16:55:20 yo tangent 16:55:37 object pascal in the background, retro in the foreground :) 16:55:51 it's like chocolate and peanut butter 16:56:39 :) 16:57:53 Actually that one isn't opengl though... There's an SDL version and an OpenGL version through ZenGL. They look identical but unfortunately the OpenGL one runs very very slow. I'm still learning the ropes there. 16:59:54 yep, show the make rxsdl :D 16:59:59 s/show/saw/ 17:00:53 :) 17:01:43 the code is here if anyone wants to mess with it https://github.com/sabren/b4/commits/zencrt 17:03:29 unfortunately, it still requires the dev version of free pascal, as well as this version of modernized aggpas: https://github.com/tangentstorm/aggpasmod 17:03:59 --- quit: foxes (Remote host closed the connection) 17:04:12 I was kind of hoping the latest fpc release would simplify things. :/ 17:04:19 were you still thinking about trying to write a mako backend? 17:05:11 not so much a mako backend as just a single vm that can run both retro and mako code 17:05:24 ah 17:06:04 possibly with some slight modifications, but it probably shouldn't be much, since you can just write new words to smooth over the differences :) 17:06:16 I have been toying with the idea of writing a mako-like VM which is designed to resemble the graphics and audio hardware of the atari 2600 17:06:39 :D 17:06:51 --- quit: mrm (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 17:06:59 I saw a BBS link the other day that had the slogan "the atari inside telnet" 17:07:10 hunh 17:07:14 Sadly the domain had expired. :/ 17:07:24 waybackmachine! 17:07:40 no i mean like telnet://whatever-it-was.com/ 17:07:48 hmm 17:07:55 well I'm fairly certain that it's impossible to write a meaningful http server on an atari 2600 17:08:06 yeah probably not 17:08:34 maybe an atari 800 or something 17:08:38 my hope was that it would be atari-style games done with ANSI graphics. :) 17:08:47 I think there's an atari 800 contiki port 17:09:40 tangentstorm: that'd still be really different 17:09:45 huh. contiki is new to me. :) 17:09:53 looks neat. 17:10:05 it's pretty amazing 17:10:16 it'd be fun to rewrite parts of it in forth 17:10:30 I imagine it'd be a good example to work from 17:12:36 I have all these little motors and sensors and junk in a box on my back porch from taking apart printers and vcr's and stuff... one of these days i want to do cool things with them. 17:13:08 tangentstorm: this book rules: http://www.amazon.com/JunkBots-Bugbots-Bots-Wheels-Technology/dp/0072226013/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1365552766&sr=8-1&keywords=bugbots+junkbots 17:13:36 --- nick: Vuokko_ -> Vuokko 17:13:49 it's a good general introduction to electronics, very accessible, and contains loads of fun projects you can make out of scavenged parts 17:14:10 mark tilden is one of my heroes 17:15:14 if you wanted you could modify some of the robot designs to include a small mcu, like perhaps the MSP430s that come with the TI launchpad, and you could even run forth on 'em to augment their capabilities 17:15:58 a "horse and rider" configuration with the microcontroller providing high-level intelligence and analog electronics providing reflexes and low-level coordination 17:24:05 --- join: kumool (~mool@c-76-26-237-95.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined #forth 17:26:49 --- quit: kumul (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 17:36:34 RodgerTheGreat: I had that book! 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