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09:19:51 <PoppaVic> i440r: union ouch { long li; char bytes[3]; void *p; };
09:20:59 <PoppaVic> the issue above will be the usual: what goes in and comes out.
09:23:49 <Vuokko> with union it is only quaranteed that if you put li in to that, you can take li out.
09:29:45 <PoppaVic> if the sizeof long and/or void* are larger than 3 chars, you want to adjust 3 to whatever
09:30:04 <PoppaVic> Well, i440r can accept the UB and work with it
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09:31:19 <PoppaVic> It looks like i440r is too pissed at ##C for not saving him as he expected ;-)
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10:53:06 <tangentstorm> http://imgur.com/IirjtQs  <- UML diagram for the opengl-powered terminal I'm building for retro.
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11:07:12 <kulp> UML seems unforthlike :P
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11:28:32 <tangentstorm> maybe. I don't do any formal process, but I'm a pretty visual thinker.
11:29:35 <Vuokko> kulp: UML is a tool to understand how program works. I design programs with grid paper and pencil. The way the design goes is I write actions to top and processes to left color the crids and draw lines between them. It's write only method but I think stuff like that
11:30:22 <tangentstorm> you have a scan, Vuokko ?
11:30:46 <Vuokko> Nope.
11:31:04 <tangentstorm> well if you ever make one, i'd love to see it. :)
11:32:46 <Vuokko> I invented that procedure for drawing UML graphs for school so it's mainly over simplified version of class, activity and sequencediagram and then but together
11:33:39 <tangentstorm> huh.
11:34:40 <Vuokko> It is personal way of thinking and understanding stuff. I've modeled with that a rock blasting on construction site :)
11:35:49 <tangentstorm> You should show it off. Maybe people will start to use it and call it a Vuokko diagram :)
11:42:14 <Vuokko> :) white vuokko diagram: https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiedosto:Valkovuokko.jpg
11:42:56 <tangentstorm> :)
11:44:43 <Vuokko> about diagrams... I've been thinking about SEE and graphviz. It would be cool to able graphically show the words towards the smallest primitives.
11:45:47 <tangentstorm> like a dependency graph?
11:46:03 <Vuokko> yep
11:46:08 <tangentstorm> i really wanted a dependency graph when learning retro.
11:46:13 <Vuokko> or callgraph 
11:46:31 <Vuokko> egypt is the tool for gcc for that.
11:48:42 <Vuokko> http://www.gson.org/egypt/
11:49:37 <tangentstorm> handy
11:50:26 <tangentstorm> this terminal thing... i'm building it on a game library called ZenGL mixed with a vector drawing library called AggPas.
11:51:01 <tangentstorm> I want to make it useful for interactive visualizations.
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12:29:32 <Vuokko> there is some terminal with opengl in gforth android btw
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14:31:11 <tangentstorm> oh. cool. :) but i'm trying to avoid the GPL 
14:31:59 <tangentstorm> also i'm kind of enjoying learning opengl here, so i don't mind reinventing the wheel :)
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15:17:35 <c00kiemon5ter> I think the Valgrind suite has a callgraph tool
15:17:46 <c00kiemon5ter> I think I've even used it <.<
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17:58:45 <Nobody_1707> Is there a decent free Arduino Forth? I'm thinking about picking one up to make a controller for KSP but I heard that the official dev tools suck.
18:01:30 <Nobody_1707> Or maybe a TEENSY...
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