00:00:00 --- log: started forth/13.03.24 00:09:14 --- quit: yunfan (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.9.2) 00:10:30 --- join: yunfan (~jyf@unaffiliated/yunfan) joined #forth 00:22:02 --- join: sw2wolf (~czsq888@171.217.161.51) joined #forth 00:46:59 I'm experimenting with Forth for embedded development. Know plenty of obscure languages, looked at various Forth implementations, feeling pretty comfortable... 00:47:16 One thing that's been really bugging me now that I'm actually writing words and mucking about in the repl, though. 00:47:28 How heinous is it to abandon the allcaps Forth style for something more... Appealing? 00:59:03 --- join: lazyden (~lazyden@bb121-7-88-91.singnet.com.sg) joined #forth 01:07:32 --- join: karswell (~user@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined #forth 01:16:14 --- part: sw2wolf left #forth 01:22:32 hello zeiris 01:22:57 i don't think all caps is all that common in modern forth 01:23:08 colorforth doesn't even have capital letters :) 01:31:48 --- join: epicmonkey (~epicmonke@188.134.41.112) joined #forth 01:49:42 I can't figure out what's modern forth and what isn't: all the websites except SwiftX and pygmyforth are scary and archaic. 01:50:01 Which is really annoying, because I need a good language for embedded development, and C/C++ ain't it >:[ 01:50:40 The swiftX trial is very well done, however. 01:56:54 I have a crazy theory. 01:57:12 Arduino code is like javascript code. Nobody wants to understand it, they just copy-paste from internet examples. 01:57:28 If you make Forth look non-scary and provide tonnes of copy-pasteable examples with a known platform, you can do what Arduino does. 02:03:06 --- quit: Nisstyre-laptop (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 03:31:57 --- quit: karswell (Remote host closed the connection) 03:39:05 --- join: protist (~protist@188.174.69.111.dynamic.snap.net.nz) joined #forth 03:41:49 hello :D 04:02:31 --- quit: lazyden (Quit: lazyden) 04:09:29 zeiris: well guess what? what's modern forth is however you decide to write it :) 04:11:01 forth needs new blood. it seems that's us. :) 04:15:45 i wrote a line of forth and feel like sharing 04:16:16 greatest common divisor=> : gcd begin tuck mod dup 0= until drop ; 04:16:34 euclidian algorithm in one line 04:21:28 --- quit: cataska (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 04:24:19 --- join: ncv (~quassel@79.114.101.3) joined #forth 04:24:19 --- quit: ncv (Changing host) 04:24:19 --- join: ncv 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whats up? 11:11:46 at the moment I'm cooking lunch 11:12:11 giving a little thought to that Raid on Bungeling Bay idea 11:12:28 dto: have you written a scheme to atari 2600 cross-compiler yet? 11:13:50 haha no. 11:13:52 why? 11:14:03 i've been playing some real 2600 and some emulated 2600 11:15:00 I just think it'd be really neat to design a high-level DSL capable of writing efficient software for the 2600 11:16:06 do it! 11:16:10 that'd be cool 11:16:14 forth would probably be ideal for it 11:16:45 maybe 11:17:05 it would *have* to be a turnkey-style target compiler 11:17:20 there IS this: http://ahefner.livejournal.com/20528.html and ive given serious thought to homebrewing with it someday 11:17:27 an interactive forth on the 2600 would be either impossible or useless 11:17:50 dto: that's precisely what made me start thinking about this idea 11:18:03 oh i see ok. now i remember,ithink :) 11:38:54 --- quit: john_metcalf (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11:39:02 --- join: 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