00:00:00 --- log: started forth/13.03.04 00:20:20 --- join: epicmonkey (~epicmonke@195.206.224.58) joined #forth 01:32:20 ftp://ftp.forth.org/pub/Forth/Tools/concordance.fth 01:32:32 ^ a tool for analyzing forth source code 01:43:12 Someone needs to index every Forth publication, organised by subject. 01:44:04 yeah 01:44:31 yes 01:44:31 that ftp site has all kinds of cool stuff. 01:44:32 yes they do 01:45:29 you could say the same about oberon and pascal... or really any languages that had their day in the sun before the web took off. 01:45:55 c seems pretty well preserved, but the rest... 01:48:29 well C is still having its day in the sun. 01:51:52 yeah :) 01:52:51 I found a great resource on B (something you don't find great resources on often in this day and age): 01:53:06 http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/dmr/kbman.html 01:53:22 :) 01:53:59 --- part: lazyden left #forth 01:54:20 doesn't look all that much different from c 01:54:23 --- join: lazyden (~lazyden@58.185.121.38) joined #forth 01:54:46 no types 02:03:29 well one type 02:03:33 the word 02:34:56 I have a book about BCPL :-) 02:35:28 http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/dmr/bcpl.html 02:35:43 that's dmr's homepage, btw. those links 03:06:16 --- join: nighty^ (~nighty@tin51-1-82-226-147-104.fbx.proxad.net) joined #forth 04:24:35 --- join: dto (~user@pool-96-252-62-13.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) joined #forth 05:30:54 --- join: JDat (9f9411b5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.159.148.17.181) joined #forth 06:04:09 --- quit: lazyden (Quit: lazyden) 07:33:34 --- join: tgunr_ (~davec@66.249.166.11) joined #forth 08:08:32 --- join: Tod-Work (~thansmann@209.90.90.120) joined #forth 08:28:50 --- join: Nisstyre-laptop (~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre) joined #forth 08:46:53 --- quit: Nisstyre-laptop (Quit: Leaving) 08:52:36 --- quit: dto (Remote host closed the connection) 09:06:19 --- join: dto (~user@pool-96-252-62-13.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) joined #forth 09:19:27 --- join: Nisstyre (~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre) joined #forth 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(~canaima@190.142.14.87) joined #forth 12:53:27 hola 12:58:30 --- quit: marilinares (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 13:17:48 --- join: Onionnion (~ryan@adsl-68-254-168-135.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net) joined #forth 13:42:57 --- join: kbmaniac (~kbmaniac@host86-155-215-196.range86-155.btcentralplus.com) joined #forth 13:48:40 --- join: nmz (~mool@c-76-26-237-95.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined #forth 13:53:38 --- join: dto (~user@pool-96-252-62-13.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) joined #forth 13:55:52 --- quit: dto (Remote host closed the connection) 14:09:39 --- join: dto (~user@pool-96-252-62-13.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) joined #forth 14:31:38 --- quit: nmz (Quit: Leaving) 14:38:57 --- quit: JDat () 15:09:33 --- quit: epicmonkey (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 15:18:09 --- join: kumul (~mool@c-76-26-237-95.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined #forth 15:21:48 tiobe says forth is more popular than actionscript. 15:21:55 http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html 15:41:37 --- join: kumool (~mool@c-76-26-237-95.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined #forth 15:41:48 it also says its more popular than awk... so yeah... 15:43:04 tiobe is almost meaningless 15:43:29 there are a hell of a lot more people talking about "flash programming" than forth, even if they don't say "Actionscript" 15:44:45 --- quit: kumul (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 15:45:27 haha 15:45:53 well i suspect it picks up a lot of words that are just people using the word "forth" in conversation. 15:46:25 it would be much nicer to see a list that was based on jobs. 15:46:53 surely there are companies out there still using forth though... somewhere in the world. 15:57:14 --- quit: Tod-Work (Quit: Leaving) 16:01:04 --- join: lazyden (~lazyden@58.185.121.38) joined #forth 16:14:08 ....no 16:14:54 haha sure there are. macromedia/mozilla for tamarin. forth,inc. greenarrays. :) 16:14:57 there are projects within companies using forth, but I seriously doubt there are forth-only shops aside from Forth Inc. and GreenArrays 16:15:13 even those come with some caveats 16:15:31 there are still people doing cobol out there 16:15:55 there are still people maintaining cobol out there 16:15:56 http://www.coboloncogs.org/INDEX.HTM :D 16:16:11 forth code either doesn't need maintenance or it gets replaced 16:16:19 hmm 16:34:10 --- quit: nighty^ (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke) 16:49:31 --- join: ASau` (~user@46.115.92.83) joined #forth 16:52:29 --- quit: ASau (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 17:14:29 --- join: kumul (~mool@c-76-26-237-95.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined #forth 17:16:29 --- quit: kumool (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 17:19:12 --- quit: lazyden (Quit: lazyden) 17:19:15 --- join: kumool (~mool@c-76-26-237-95.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined #forth 17:20:51 --- join: lazyden (~lazyden@58.185.121.38) joined #forth 17:21:17 --- quit: kumul (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 18:08:01 --- part: dessos left #forth 18:08:16 tangentstorm: I'm sure Chuck Moore is using it >.> 18:09:23 I'm sure there's quite a few restricted-environment embedded shops that still use it almost exclusively. 18:09:24 nah, he's moved on to colorforth :) 18:09:55 Which is Forth. :) 18:10:16 Not a dialect I like, personally, but that's neither here nor there. 18:10:28 i suppose 18:10:36 hard to say what is or isn't forth, really :) 18:11:12 https://github.com/sabren/b4/blob/master/b4a/b4a.wj <- is that forth? :) 18:11:15 Well, except for ANS Forth. That's not Forth. :) 18:12:36 the way i picture that code working, it would pretty much be bootstrapped from forth, and would still compile/execute one token at a time... how far do you have to change it before it's not forth anymore? 18:24:33 ttmrichter: I prefer to think that ANS forth is *a* forth, just not a very nice one 19:57:53 --- quit: dto (Remote host closed the connection) 19:58:26 --- join: dto (~user@pool-96-252-62-13.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) joined #forth 20:27:56 --- join: kumul (~mool@c-76-26-237-95.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined #forth 20:30:05 --- quit: kumool (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 20:34:02 --- join: kumool (~mool@c-76-26-237-95.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined #forth 20:36:29 --- quit: kumul (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 21:14:00 --- join: kumul (~mool@c-76-26-237-95.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined #forth 21:16:29 --- quit: kumool (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 21:17:15 --- join: kumool (~mool@c-76-26-237-95.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined #forth 21:20:06 --- quit: kumul (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 21:21:24 RodgerTheGreat: are you on mac? 21:21:28 yes 21:21:40 i'll have a mac version sometime this week for you to play with. 21:21:45 ok 21:21:55 if you wanna check out what ive been doing that is :) 21:22:07 i loved your stuff and would love to chat game design whenever 21:22:45 ok 21:23:09 I'm definitely curious based on what you've shown 21:24:25 --- quit: Onionnion (Quit: Leaving) 21:25:43 i'll keep you updated :) 21:44:29 --- join: kumul (~mool@c-76-26-237-95.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined #forth 21:44:53 --- quit: RodgerTheGreat (Quit: RodgerTheGreat) 21:46:53 --- quit: kumool (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 21:55:48 --- join: kumool (~mool@c-76-26-237-95.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined #forth 21:58:05 --- quit: kumul (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 22:14:43 --- nick: ASau` -> ASau 22:16:15 --- quit: tangentstorm (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 22:17:09 --- join: tangentstorm (~michal@108-218-151-22.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined #forth 22:24:42 --- join: kumul (~mool@c-76-26-237-95.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined #forth 22:27:25 --- quit: kumool (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 22:32:01 --- join: kumool (~mool@c-76-26-237-95.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined #forth 22:34:23 --- quit: kumul (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 22:57:05 --- join: kumul (~mool@c-76-26-237-95.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined #forth 22:59:25 --- quit: kumool (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 23:23:57 --- quit: ASau (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 23:35:01 --- quit: kumul (Quit: Leaving) 23:37:21 --- join: epicmonkey (~epicmonke@188.134.41.176) joined #forth 23:45:17 --- join: obobo_ (~chatzilla@dyn-76-75-88-85.nexicom.net) joined #forth 23:46:40 --- quit: obobo (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 23:46:51 --- nick: obobo_ -> obobo 23:51:41 --- quit: epicmonkey (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/13.03.04