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seconds) 16:54:24 --- quit: Onionnion (Quit: Leaving) 16:55:33 --- join: beretta2 (~yaaic@cpe-107-8-119-187.columbus.res.rr.com) joined #forth 17:03:51 --- quit: beretta2 (Quit: Yaaic - Yet another Android IRC client - http://www.yaaic.org) 17:21:47 --- join: Nisstyre-laptop (~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre) joined #forth 17:23:57 --- join: kumul (~mool@c-76-26-237-95.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined #forth 17:36:03 --- nick: ASau` -> ASau 17:54:55 --- join: republican_devil (~g@pool-71-119-99-15.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined #forth 17:55:12 anyone running a website on greenarrays chips? 17:55:17 whats apps are peolpe building? 17:55:20 is ti kicking ass? 17:55:22 fast io? 17:55:28 great processing power? 18:00:10 I don't think greenArrays chips would be particularly great at hosting websites but I understand that they've developed a TCP stack 18:01:01 it was described on the last Forth Day 18:01:41 no shit 18:01:43 vid? 18:02:08 last one I saw mr moore was talking about no flickering lines on his new chip I think 2010 so i am 3 behind at least 18:04:01 amusingly Mr. Moore talked about controlling telescopes in his most recent fireside chat. Forth gets back to its roots. 18:04:23 awesome shit 18:04:37 Id be happy to know howto create and sort an array 18:05:39 well creating an array is easy in Forth 18:06:07 "create foo 10 allot" allocates an array 10 cells long 18:06:25 if you say "foo" you'll get the address of the head of the array 18:06:47 sorting can be more or less complicated depending on how efficient you want to be 18:08:33 and what sorts of assumptions you're allowed to make 18:08:56 well in the book sicp used by mit with scheme 18:09:01 here is a problem: 18:09:06 take 3 numbers 18:09:14 drop the smallest 18:09:22 suare each of remaining two 18:09:28 and return the sum of those two squares 18:09:35 now I have forth code to do it 18:09:38 and it is short 18:09:51 but in lisp, common lisp, I used a sort function 18:09:58 --- join: epicmonkey (~epicmonke@188.134.41.176) joined #forth 18:09:59 so I got curious howto build one in forth 18:10:00 --- join: kumool (~mool@c-76-26-237-95.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined #forth 18:10:03 and I am utterly clueless 18:10:17 if I finish starting forth and thinking forth should I be able to? 18:10:24 well, show us the forth solution you came up with 18:10:32 both of those books are well worth reading 18:10:47 if you do the exercises in addition to reading them you ought to be able to 18:10:53 reading is no substitute for practice 18:11:06 http://endthefed.livejournal.com/476661.html 18:11:15 ah yes practice 18:11:21 thats how one gets to carnegie hall 18:12:28 --- quit: kumul (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 18:12:35 looks like pretty good factoring to me 18:12:59 I probably would have used some >r r> instead of a rot but it's all good 18:13:28 --- join: kumul (~mool@c-76-26-237-95.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined #forth 18:16:33 --- quit: kumool (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 18:21:15 hmm 18:21:16 cool 18:21:35 what do you think about using arrays as a data structure in forth? 18:21:46 one could build a database I think from arrays 18:25:39 sure 18:26:01 in most languages arrays are the basis of higher-level data structures anyway 18:29:58 ah 18:29:59 ok 18:31:02 --- quit: epicmonkey (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 18:35:07 --- quit: kumul (Quit: Leaving) 18:35:52 so u can do all general purpose programming tasks 18:35:56 basically 18:35:59 in forth 18:36:14 nothing much lisp can do that forth can't 18:36:20 I guess forth doesnt have macroes 18:36:25 but maybe it doesnt need them 18:37:41 forth has other ways of doing metaprogramming 18:38:05 in lisp you metaprogram by defining transformations on ASTs. In forth you dynamically extend the compiler. 18:38:15 both of these approaches have benefits 19:08:15 --- nick: dessos_ -> dessos 19:15:56 --- quit: TodPunk (Quit: This is me, signing off. Probably rebooting or something.) 19:43:37 --- join: TodPunk (~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com) joined #forth 19:46:11 --- join: DocPlatypus (~skquinn@c-76-30-236-86.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) joined #forth 19:46:36 yo doc 19:53:23 --- join: Onionnion (~ryan@adsl-68-254-172-112.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net) joined #forth 19:55:07 hi 19:55:15 what are the haps 20:17:04 SSDD for the most part 20:17:45 just got done moving another half-carload of stuff into storage and a few items into the place we're moving into 20:21:32 ah, the joys of redistributing one's possessions 20:34:05 --- quit: Onionnion (Quit: Leaving) 20:35:21 yeah 20:35:38 the joys of being stuck with my mom, and neither of us being able to find a decent job 21:09:25 --- quit: cratuki_ (Quit: leaving) 21:34:14 --- quit: jevin (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 21:38:19 --- join: jevin (~jevin@72.12.217.220) joined #forth 22:22:48 --- quit: RodgerTheGreat (Quit: RodgerTheGreat) 22:58:16 --- join: sleeps240p (~sleeps240@d173-180-218-90.bchsia.telus.net) joined #forth 23:17:02 --- quit: kulp (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 23:28:28 --- quit: yunfan (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 23:37:13 --- quit: ASau (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 23:52:45 --- quit: sleeps240p (Quit: sleeps240p) 23:57:34 --- quit: Nisstyre-laptop (Quit: Leaving) 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/13.02.19