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(~ttmrichte@221.234.38.23) joined #forth 20:47:53 --- mode: ChanServ set +v ttmrichter 21:08:30 --- join: jyfl987 (~jyf@unaffiliated/yunfan) joined #forth 21:08:31 --- mode: ChanServ set +v jyfl987 21:09:05 --- join: sav (~lsd@peirce.xored.org) joined #forth 21:09:05 --- mode: ChanServ set +v sav 22:41:13 --- quit: Kumul (Quit: gone) 22:42:41 is there any cloud service which support forth 22:49:03 Define both "cloud service" and "forth" here? 22:49:36 ("Cloud" is such a piece of marketing fluff it applies to anything that used to be just called a web site on up to virtual hosting and storage.) 22:50:58 "Cloud" is a virtual hosting and storage only done with no fixed network addresses. 22:51:13 That's one definition, yes. 22:51:17 Among billions out there now. 22:52:49 There're no billions, it would be more definitions than clouds themselves. 22:53:11 Technically, it does differ from virtual hosting and virtual storage, 22:53:19 once you start considering more than single host. 22:54:57 Whether you consider changes minor or not, it differs still. 22:55:45 Well colour me embarrassed. Because it's obvious to *anybody* that I literally meant billions. 22:55:47 Asshat. 23:00:05 If you're smarter than average, you know that appealing to the use in marketing is not the best way to discuss it. 23:00:24 Technically the term covers different pattern than just a virtual hosting. 23:04:14 Who said I was appealing to it, asshat? I was asking which specific meaning jyfl987 had in mind given that there are so many uses for the term. 23:04:17 ttmrichter : `cloud service` a service that host your apps and make it ignore the physical difference of machine 23:04:20 ; 23:04:25 OK, thanks. 23:04:32 Now what do you mean by "supporting Forth"? 23:04:39 Booting into a Forth environment? 23:04:56 Having a Forth available? 23:05:03 What degree of support are you looking for? 23:05:21 ttmrichter: not boot, do you have any experiences on using GAE? 23:05:51 Nope. Never looked much at Google's stuff there. 23:06:19 ttmrichter: GAE support python/java/go , what i need is something like GAE but with a forth support 23:06:53 Hmm... Can't think of anything that fits that bill, no. 23:07:05 ttmrichter: GAE is a webapp hosting service, it will preprocess http request and call your defined app via cgi protocal 23:07:13 ttmrichter: it was pretty obvious what he was asking, if you would be smarter than average. 23:07:44 ASau`: well i can understand him, because you let me learnt so much 23:08:19 jyfl987: no, it is unlikely that you'll have any such service any time soon. 23:08:28 Asshat: It's usually best to confirm rather than assume. Unless you're an arrogant shit. Oh, right. Look who I'm talking with. Never mind. 23:09:11 ASau`: i mean i can understand why he ask me to define cloud service , i remember when i ask question about vm here, you also ask me the definition about vm 23:09:21 It is usually best to learn the field before you start "confirming" anything, asshole. 23:09:51 jyfl987: there's fundamental difference. 23:09:57 why you two keep on trolling, how old are you guys? ttmrichter ASau` ? 23:10:22 jyfl987: you were lumping together several different conceptual layers when talking about VMs. 23:10:57 My first exposure to Forth was on 8-bit machines that filled desktops. That's how old I am. ;) 23:10:59 jyfl987: your cloud question is pretty straightforward, somewhat close to gavino style. 23:11:00 ASau`: so i learnt from you 23:11:36 ttmrichter: then why you guys keep on trolling each other like kids? 23:12:10 Keep? I think this is the first time I've actually said anything to Asshat. 23:12:14 jyfl987: because ttmrichter has stopped in his development in 8-bit areas, and you know what happens when you talk with kids. 23:13:32 ok, so there is not any services as i have just described? 23:14:19 No, and it isn't likely that they appear. 23:14:52 The reason why such services exist for Python, Java, Go &co, 23:14:56 then i can make it myself :] 23:15:02 is that these are popular languages. 23:15:22 That may be your only option, yes. 23:15:33 Not only popular, but also suited to work in the corresponding environment. 23:16:08 In particular, take a look how Java web applications are deployed. 23:16:11 E.g. in Tomcat. 23:16:49 i see these service like GAE is still not that popular because of its biling options, then only support high level language that might costs more time or more resource which finally cost more money 23:17:05 so i think maybe i could build a low level Paas service 23:17:17 You can try. 23:18:10 ASau`: i remember you use java or lisp as your primary lang? 23:33:02 --- join: DocPlatypus (~skquinn@108-75-59-67.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) joined #forth 23:33:03 --- mode: ChanServ set +v DocPlatypus 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/12.04.11