00:00:00 --- log: started forth/12.03.02 00:11:26 --- join: ttmrichter (~ttmrichte@113.106.101.41) joined #forth 00:11:26 --- mode: ChanServ set +v ttmrichter 02:12:44 --- quit: DocPlatypus (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 02:25:02 --- join: DocPlatypus (~skquinn@108-75-59-67.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) joined #forth 02:25:03 --- mode: ChanServ set +v DocPlatypus 03:44:20 --- quit: karswell (Remote host closed the connection) 03:45:00 --- join: karswell (~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined #forth 03:45:01 --- mode: ChanServ set +v karswell 04:44:22 --- join: Kumul (~Kumul@67.224.230.59) joined #forth 04:44:22 --- mode: ChanServ set +v Kumul 04:50:01 --- quit: segher (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 04:55:05 --- join: segher (~segher@5ED3C8DF.cm-7-4d.dynamic.ziggo.nl) joined #forth 04:55:05 --- mode: ChanServ set +v segher 05:03:01 --- join: ASau` (~user@95-27-150-185.broadband.corbina.ru) joined #forth 05:03:03 --- mode: ChanServ set +v ASau` 05:07:37 --- quit: ASau (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 06:22:22 --- join: adasfdasf (~adasfdasf@187.38.69.78) joined #forth 06:22:22 --- mode: ChanServ set +v adasfdasf 06:24:26 hi! 06:24:38 can a forth program be compiled? 06:26:59 adasfdasf: That would depend on the Forth environment being used. 06:27:09 SwiftForth, for example, has a compiler. 06:27:29 it just needs to translate user-defined words to asm ones, I think 06:29:24 That's all it *needs* to do, but you can apply any compiler technology to Forth as well. 06:29:53 Which includes peephole optimizations, the equivalent of term rewriting, etc. 06:48:42 so forth is an interpreted language 06:53:04 It's... complicated. 06:53:21 But yes, it's typically 'interpreted' (using a really wonky view of interpretation). 07:00:59 as the forth must resolve the addr of the next word to call 07:03:39 why is it complicated? I think it's equivalent to put LUA interpreter on my C core. 07:12:09 Because it's not an interpreter like Lua is. 07:12:33 Forth is more an abstraction of a virtual machine than a language. 07:16:04 is it like java? 07:16:09 the bytecode 07:17:34 There is no bytecode. 07:18:15 Correction: there *usually* is no bytecode. 07:18:37 One of the implementation techniques (rarely used, to my knowledge) is somewhat like bytecode. 07:20:17 http://www.bradrodriguez.com/papers/moving1.htm 07:20:26 There's a good summary there of various implementation techniques. 07:28:12 --- quit: karswell (Remote host closed the connection) 07:29:16 --- join: karswell (~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined #forth 07:29:16 --- mode: ChanServ set +v karswell 07:36:21 --- quit: karswell (Remote host closed the connection) 07:36:53 --- join: karswell (~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined #forth 07:36:53 --- mode: ChanServ set +v karswell 07:40:04 --- join: MayDaniel (~MayDaniel@unaffiliated/maydaniel) joined #forth 07:40:04 --- mode: ChanServ set +v MayDaniel 07:42:48 --- join: karswell_ (~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined #forth 07:43:03 --- mode: ChanServ set +v karswell_ 07:45:46 --- quit: ttmrichter (Quit: Leaving) 07:46:08 --- quit: karswell (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 08:13:47 --- quit: karswell_ (Remote host closed the connection) 08:14:18 --- join: karswell_ (~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined #forth 08:14:18 --- mode: ChanServ set +v karswell_ 09:10:21 --- quit: karswell_ (Remote host closed the connection) 09:10:54 --- join: karswell_ (~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined #forth 09:10:54 --- mode: ChanServ set +v karswell_ 09:12:53 --- join: spon (3260d5ce@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.96.213.206) joined #forth 09:13:03 --- mode: ChanServ set +v spon 09:13:10 --- nick: spon -> spahn 09:13:48 Some random kinder told me that there is a bounty on SHA256 implementation for GreenArray. Is this true? 09:14:17 where can i learn more about this? 09:15:52 Dunno anything about that beyond what it says in the /topic 09:18:12 there seems to be according to the title 09:20:36 koo 09:24:33 tathi the problem is linux creates a BLOCKING section 09:25:08 [.text] ... [.data][.bss] ...... <-- randomly spaced BLOKING allocation that does not belong to me 09:25:21 i.e. brk is mutually exclusive with heap randomization 09:39:51 --- quit: karswell_ (Remote host closed the connection) 09:40:20 --- join: karswell_ (~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined #forth 09:40:21 --- mode: ChanServ set +v karswell_ 09:42:01 tathi. we might have to revert to trying to use your 1 meg bss 09:58:28 --- quit: MayDaniel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10:00:08 --- quit: karswell_ (Remote host closed the connection) 10:00:46 --- join: karswell_ (~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined #forth 10:00:46 --- mode: ChanServ set +v karswell_ 10:24:05 nice thing to do after write some forth books: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsvVKcmvZPY 10:30:52 but I still prefer this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyzY5kKzfFM 10:42:51 --- join: MayDaniel (~MayDaniel@host86-169-250-115.range86-169.btcentralplus.com) joined #forth 10:43:03 --- quit: MayDaniel (Changing host) 10:43:04 --- join: MayDaniel (~MayDaniel@unaffiliated/maydaniel) joined #forth 10:43:04 --- mode: ChanServ set +v MayDaniel 10:45:34 --- quit: karswell_ (Remote host closed the connection) 10:46:16 --- join: karswell_ (~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined #forth 10:46:16 --- mode: ChanServ set +v karswell_ 10:47:24 --- join: nighty_- (~nighty@static-68-179-124-161.ptr.terago.net) joined #forth 10:47:24 --- mode: ChanServ set +v nighty_- 11:03:17 --- quit: karswell_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11:03:51 --- join: karswell_ (~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined #forth 11:03:51 --- mode: ChanServ set +v karswell_ 11:05:21 --- quit: spahn (Quit: Page closed) 11:06:55 --- quit: karswell_ (Remote host closed the connection) 11:07:41 --- join: karswell_ (~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined #forth 11:07:42 --- mode: ChanServ set +v karswell_ 11:19:39 FUCK. i got it working with heap randomization 11:19:47 but fsave needs to be fixed lol 11:19:50 checking this shit in 11:50:32 --- quit: IAmHere (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11:51:14 --- join: IAmHere (~IAmHere@c-75-70-9-151.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 11:51:15 --- mode: ChanServ set +v IAmHere 11:58:47 --- quit: karswell_ (Remote host closed the connection) 11:59:26 --- join: karswell_ (~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined #forth 11:59:26 --- mode: ChanServ set +v karswell_ 11:59:35 bbl. gotta go to kinkos and have some stuff printed out, signed and faxed for new contract 12:07:47 --- quit: karswell_ (Remote host closed the connection) 12:08:17 --- join: karswell_ (~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined #forth 12:08:17 --- mode: ChanServ set +v karswell_ 12:09:23 Fedex? 12:27:47 --- part: IAmHere left #forth 13:28:07 --- join: karswell__ (~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined #forth 13:28:07 --- mode: ChanServ set +v karswell__ 13:31:17 --- quit: karswell_ (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 13:33:01 --- quit: MayDaniel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13:42:37 no not fedex :) 13:48:14 --- quit: adasfdasf () 13:52:23 --- quit: karswell__ (Remote host closed the connection) 13:52:55 --- join: karswell__ (~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined #forth 13:53:03 --- mode: ChanServ set +v karswell__ 14:01:38 --- quit: karswell__ (Remote host closed the connection) 14:02:38 --- join: karswell__ (~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined #forth 14:02:39 --- mode: ChanServ set +v karswell__ 14:10:47 --- quit: karswell__ (Remote host closed the connection) 14:11:37 --- join: karswell__ (~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined #forth 14:11:37 --- mode: ChanServ set +v karswell__ 14:46:33 --- quit: karswell__ (Remote host closed the connection) 14:47:05 --- join: karswell__ (~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined #forth 14:47:05 --- mode: ChanServ set +v karswell__ 14:56:25 --- quit: karswell__ (Remote host closed the connection) 14:57:09 --- join: karswell__ (~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined #forth 14:57:09 --- mode: ChanServ set +v karswell__ 15:18:24 --- quit: karswell__ (Remote host closed the connection) 15:19:06 --- join: karswell__ (~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined #forth 15:19:06 --- mode: ChanServ set +v karswell__ 15:38:25 --- quit: karswell__ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15:39:04 --- join: ttmrichter (~ttmrichte@58.55.124.247) joined #forth 15:39:04 --- mode: ChanServ set +v ttmrichter 15:39:08 --- join: karswell__ (~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined #forth 15:39:09 --- mode: ChanServ set +v karswell__ 15:43:27 --- quit: nighty_- (Remote host closed the connection) 15:47:36 --- quit: karswell__ (Remote host closed the connection) 15:48:07 --- join: karswell__ (~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined #forth 15:48:08 --- mode: ChanServ set +v karswell__ 16:00:05 --- quit: karswell__ (Remote host closed the connection) 16:00:36 --- join: karswell__ (~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined #forth 16:00:42 --- mode: ChanServ set +v karswell__ 16:11:45 --- quit: karswell__ (Remote host closed the connection) 16:12:14 --- join: karswell__ (~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined #forth 16:12:15 --- mode: ChanServ set +v karswell__ 16:14:03 --- join: IAmHere_ (~IAmHere@c-75-70-9-151.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 16:14:03 --- mode: ChanServ set +v IAmHere_ 16:26:32 --- quit: karswell__ (Remote host closed the connection) 16:27:04 --- join: karswell__ (~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined #forth 16:27:04 --- mode: ChanServ set +v karswell__ 17:12:57 --- join: adasfdasf (adasfdasf@200.185.225.95) joined #forth 17:12:58 --- mode: ChanServ set +v adasfdasf 17:17:23 are you going here? 17:28:20 --- quit: karswell__ (Remote host closed the connection) 17:28:53 --- join: karswell__ (~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined #forth 17:28:53 --- mode: ChanServ set +v karswell__ 17:53:18 --- quit: tathi (Quit: leaving) 17:57:44 say what? 17:58:26 --- quit: karswell__ (Remote host closed the connection) 17:58:55 --- join: karswell__ (~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined #forth 17:58:55 --- mode: ChanServ set +v karswell__ 17:59:14 have i talked to karswell before? 17:59:24 there seems to be alot of names im not familiar with lol 17:59:29 and this is MY CHANNEL DAMMIT! lol 17:59:31 ok its yours too 18:06:42 I440r: where are you? 18:23:19 right now im in wisconsin 18:23:29 but i just got a contract in illANNOUY 18:23:32 ill annoy even 18:23:47 heh 18:24:24 ah, USA 18:24:31 ya 18:24:38 u not in usa? 18:24:47 no, Brazil 18:24:53 cool 18:25:04 good guitar composers there :0 18:25:07 villa lobos ftw 18:25:11 tho he is dead aww 18:25:19 yes, great composer 18:25:27 do you know jobim? 18:25:29 i can play prelude #1 :) 18:25:31 yes 18:25:35 u a guitarist 18:25:35 ? 18:25:48 no, but I'm learning to play jaja 18:25:52 :) 18:25:54 thats good 18:26:16 H.V.lobos said if u want to destroy your musical ability go to music school :) 18:26:21 I like music like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tKXJaN1IsM 18:26:32 this can be translated as Soul of Forest 18:27:12 this guy builds your own guitar 18:27:46 yes thats my kind of music too 18:27:56 look up able fleury 18:28:05 he was from argentina 18:28:18 I also like to guitarists such as Yngwie Malmsteen 18:28:41 i can play some satriani :) 18:28:53 i have an ibanez 440 radius :) 18:29:01 which is what the JS series awas based off 18:29:44 i want to learn to play recurdos de la alhambra 18:30:23 it appears to be very hard 18:30:51 its one of the most technically difficult pieces of music to plahy on ANY instrument 18:30:52 in fact 18:31:06 the guitar is probably the single most difficult instrument to MASTER 18:31:15 easy to learn to play. damned hard to master 18:32:12 hang on going to PM you a link 18:32:26 I tried to learn to play piano 18:32:48 but stopped on hannon exercises 18:35:36 --- quit: IAmHere_ (Quit: IAmHere_) 20:23:41 --- quit: Nisstyre (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20:35:41 --- quit: adasfdasf () 20:37:23 --- quit: karswell__ (Remote host closed the connection) 20:37:56 --- join: karswell__ (~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined #forth 20:38:03 --- mode: ChanServ set +v karswell__ 20:48:03 --- quit: karswell__ (Remote host closed the connection) 20:48:48 --- join: karswell__ (~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined #forth 20:48:48 --- mode: ChanServ set +v karswell__ 21:23:15 --- quit: Kumul (Quit: gone) 21:25:15 --- quit: I440r (Quit: Leaving) 21:36:58 --- join: Nisstyre (~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net) joined #forth 21:36:58 --- mode: ChanServ set +v Nisstyre 22:18:51 --- quit: karswell__ (Remote host closed the connection) 22:19:21 --- join: karswell__ (~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined #forth 22:19:21 --- mode: ChanServ set +v karswell__ 22:42:29 --- quit: karswell__ (Remote host closed the connection) 22:43:16 --- join: karswell__ (~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined #forth 22:43:16 --- mode: ChanServ set +v karswell__ 22:49:25 --- quit: karswell__ () 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/12.03.02