00:00:00 --- log: started forth/11.11.11 00:44:13 --- quit: superdmp (Quit: superdmp) 00:54:18 --- join: ttmrichter (~ttmrichte@61.184.206.217) joined #forth 01:28:14 --- quit: ygrek (Remote host closed the connection) 01:44:17 --- join: ygrek (~user@gateway/tor-sasl/ygrek) joined #forth 03:54:50 --- quit: ygrek (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 05:02:31 --- quit: ttmrichter (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05:05:40 --- join: nighty^ (~nighty@TOROON12-1279662182.sdsl.bell.ca) joined #forth 05:08:40 --- join: ttmrichter (~ttmrichte@61.184.205.201) joined #forth 05:12:28 --- quit: Fox78 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 05:12:51 --- join: Fox78 (~fox@123.118.159.175) joined #forth 05:32:30 --- quit: ttmrichter (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 05:32:52 --- join: ttmrichter (~ttmrichte@61.184.206.218) joined #forth 07:15:36 --- quit: ttmrichter (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 07:50:06 --- join: MayDaniel (~MayDaniel@unaffiliated/maydaniel) joined #forth 09:04:48 --- join: superdmp (~world@cpc7-ely05-2-0-cust207.5-1.cable.virginmedia.com) joined #forth 09:20:46 --- join: ygrek (~user@gateway/tor-sasl/ygrek) joined #forth 09:21:38 --- join: superdmp_ (~world@cpc7-ely05-2-0-cust207.5-1.cable.virginmedia.com) joined #forth 09:22:49 --- quit: superdmp (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 09:22:49 --- nick: superdmp_ -> superdmp 09:45:25 --- quit: nighty^ (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 10:00:41 --- join: nighty^ (~nighty@TOROON12-1279662182.sdsl.bell.ca) joined #forth 10:03:13 --- quit: ygrek (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 10:28:28 --- join: ygrek (~user@gateway/tor-sasl/ygrek) joined #forth 12:07:27 --- join: xpololz (~xpololz@dhcp585-stud.wifi.uit.no) joined #forth 12:09:23 --- join: Bahman (~Bahman@2.146.18.184) joined #forth 12:09:36 Hi all! 13:38:10 --- quit: xpololz (Quit: Leaving) 14:12:02 --- part: superdmp left #forth 14:19:30 --- quit: MayDaniel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15:00:09 --- join: kenanb (~kenanb@94.54.237.227) joined #forth 15:02:19 --- quit: ygrek (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 15:12:09 hi folks 15:12:19 i've been wondering something 15:12:28 i want to start learning/using forth 15:12:44 especially for modern graphics stuff if possible 15:13:15 but i couldn't achieve to start from some point 15:14:12 for example i couldn't find a main site for forth-people to see current well-maintained/popular implementations 15:14:32 common libraries for them 15:14:35 etc. 15:16:17 i have found some alternatives, one is gforth, there is even a complete tutorial transforming nehe examples to gforth, but there is no place telling me that opengl bindings for forth are x years old, they support x.x version of it 15:16:42 kenanb: Checkout www.forthfreak.net/ 15:17:22 For learning Forth, I used http://www.forth.com/starting-forth/index.html 15:17:39 ah, great mate, thank you 15:17:40 I'm not a pro so i can't help you with detail information on OpenGL and such. 15:17:53 do you know if gforth is well-maintained? 15:18:09 and which are the most popular implementations? 15:19:09 kenanb: As I said I'm not a pro -less than a month since I started Forth :-) - but I can tell that Gforth is good implementation supporting many architecutres and providing nice non ANSForth features. 15:19:24 which one do you use mostly? 15:19:28 Gforth 15:19:32 ah, nice 15:19:50 i also found colorforth cool but i guess it is a completely different beast 15:20:52 Also take a look at bigForth. 15:22:42 --- join: superdmp (~world@cpc7-ely05-2-0-cust207.5-1.cable.virginmedia.com) joined #forth 15:23:35 hi, I wondered if anyone has seen this: http://sites.google.com/site/libby8dev/fignition 15:24:15 (an 8-bit kit computer, running a variant of fig-forth) 15:25:38 Nice one! I wish we had such thing for "Microprocessor Design lab" back in university. 15:26:10 Bahman: it's great! I was so intrigued by the Jupiter Ace when I was a teenager 30 years ago 15:26:23 and never even go to see one 15:26:40 but I built this with my children, and they are really excited 15:26:43 and learning Forth 15:26:50 Oh?! 15:26:55 Excellent! 15:27:44 http://db.tt/o1Xl54DL and http://db.tt/AS1pXIqM 15:27:57 I've never seen them excited by computers in the same way before 15:29:26 Such boards are really needed in universities. It may change the way engineers lack system/embedded system skills. 15:29:53 high schools too 15:30:16 superdmp: Cool! It's a good sign when a teenager prefers to program than to play guitar :-) 15:30:30 just so kids get a chance to do some computing, not just using business machines 15:31:15 I agree. The joy of system programming will always haunt them. 15:31:21 it offers a respite in between the hysterical giggling and protracted sulks anyway 15:31:58 Congratulations for the device! 15:32:09 and I'm really pleased because I got my Forth computer too 15:32:36 you should congratulate the guy who made it 15:32:51 he did it all from scratch 15:33:51 He must have felt great when it worked! 15:33:59 * Bahman feels envious 15:37:18 ahahaha, i did some search in forth mailing list, just to see the usual concerns and talks of community 15:37:21 there he is 15:37:23 gavino! 15:37:25 :D 15:37:45 this guy doesn't stop 16:12:11 --- part: kenanb left #forth 16:15:23 --- join: ttmrichter (~ttmrichte@61.184.205.201) joined #forth 17:10:44 --- quit: Bahman (Quit: Leaving.) 17:58:01 --- quit: superdmp (Quit: superdmp) 17:59:05 --- join: superdmp (~world@cpc7-ely05-2-0-cust207.5-1.cable.virginmedia.com) joined #forth 18:03:35 --- quit: superdmp (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 18:41:49 --- join: superdmp (~world@cpc7-ely05-2-0-cust207.5-1.cable.virginmedia.com) joined #forth 18:46:12 --- quit: superdmp (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19:08:30 --- quit: nighty^ (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke) 20:29:57 --- join: superdmp (~world@cpc7-ely05-2-0-cust207.5-1.cable.virginmedia.com) joined #forth 20:34:10 --- quit: superdmp (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21:01:45 --- quit: cataska (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21:02:47 --- join: cataska (~cataska@210.64.6.233) joined #forth 21:38:50 --- quit: nighty__ (Remote host closed the connection) 22:06:42 --- join: nighty^ (~nighty@69-165-220-105.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined #forth 23:50:49 --- join: ygrek (~user@gateway/tor-sasl/ygrek) joined #forth 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/11.11.11