00:00:00 --- log: started forth/11.11.08 00:23:19 --- join: MayDaniel (~MayDaniel@unaffiliated/maydaniel) joined #forth 00:44:02 --- join: Bahman (~Bahman@2.146.134.61) joined #forth 00:44:31 Hi all! 01:14:21 --- quit: MayDaniel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01:51:08 --- join: ttmrichter (~ttmrichte@58.55.124.247) joined #forth 01:51:44 Hey ttmrichter! 01:52:26 Ahoy-o. 01:55:13 ttmrichter: Would you help me out here? http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gforth/2011-11/msg00003.html 01:57:00 I cannot at this time. Eating dinner and will be running off to work in about 8 minutes. 01:57:37 No problems. Enjoy. 01:57:50 Oh, that's an easy one, though. 01:58:06 They can't see the word if SEE (and other related words) are stubbed out, can they? 01:59:00 I doubt it. 01:59:03 Another choice would be to embed the Forth interpreter into an executable and run it that way. 01:59:44 I'll look into giving you a more detailed answer when I get back. 01:59:50 Thanks. 03:00:55 --- quit: karswell (Remote host closed the connection) 03:56:16 --- join: haole_ (~chatzilla@c9066591.static.spo.virtua.com.br) joined #forth 03:57:32 --- quit: haole (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 04:28:41 Bahman ! ping 04:29:03 ttmrichter: I bounce 04:29:41 So, one thing I thought of while I was out: you can't do what you want to do with GForth. 04:29:46 It's that pesky GNU license thing. 04:30:40 Yes...that's what I asked in that thread. 04:31:25 I just wanted to be sure that there is no way to do so without breaking the (c). 05:13:16 --- join: republican_devil (~g@pool-71-189-7-58.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined #forth 05:13:20 hello 05:23:23 Hi republican_devil! 05:28:10 hey are you devloping anything non embedded using forth? 05:29:17 republican_devil: I'm planning to if I can tackle the license issues :-) 05:32:36 why are pfe or gforth not free nuf for u? 05:33:57 republican_devil: In short, my program's source code must *not* be visible by others. Gforth is excellent but looks like I can't use it without breaking the (c) license. Check this out: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gforth/2011-11/msg00003.html 05:34:08 --- join: nighty^ (~nighty@76.70.24.102) joined #forth 05:35:36 something proprietary? 05:35:38 hmmm 05:35:52 has to be a bsd licensed forth somewhere 05:37:32 --- quit: republican_devil (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05:39:48 --- join: borkman (~user@S0106001111de1fc8.cg.shawcable.net) joined #forth 05:54:12 BSD or MIT would be ideal I think. 05:57:31 Yes. 06:00:47 Hmm... PFE is LGPL. 06:01:12 Still not adequate. 06:02:15 OK, now I have to write an ANS Forth that's MIT licensed (or even better the WTFPL). 06:02:46 I can test the implementation if you insist :-P 06:04:41 If I write one it won't be particularly efficient, I should warn you. I'd just do the indirect threading thing. No fancy optimizations or the like. 06:10:43 So there's room for others too :-D 06:11:02 Indeed. 06:43:06 --- quit: ttmrichter (Quit: Leaving) 06:58:42 --- quit: haole_ (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 7.0.1/20110928134238]) 09:12:48 --- join: MayDaniel (~MayDaniel@unaffiliated/maydaniel) joined #forth 09:28:56 --- quit: MayDaniel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09:33:22 anyone know which #ifdef I should use to partition code between UI__ and NS__? I need to seperate out some of my common utility logging code. 09:33:52 oops, wrong channel 09:57:36 --- join: _spt_ (~steve@unaffiliated/-spt-/x-5624824) joined #forth 10:22:16 --- quit: _spt_ (Quit: Jupiter Research leaving -) 10:36:04 --- quit: tgunr__ (*.net *.split) 10:37:00 --- join: tgunr__ (~davec@cust-66-249-166-11.static.o1.com) joined #forth 11:04:36 --- join: ygrek (~user@gateway/tor-sasl/ygrek) joined #forth 11:20:58 --- quit: MoALTz (Quit: Leaving) 12:02:05 --- join: MoALTz (~no@host-92-8-236-147.as43234.net) joined #forth 12:17:36 --- join: tathi (~josh@dsl-216-227-97-177.fairpoint.net) joined #forth 12:17:57 Bahman: pforth is public domain 12:18:18 tathi: Does it work on Windoze too? 12:20:30 It's straight C, I don't see why it wouldn't. 12:20:46 You may have to build it yourself, but that shouldn't be a problem. 12:21:40 FICL is BSD licensed, I think. 12:21:58 In case pforth is too small. 12:26:09 Thank you tathi. 12:40:25 --- quit: Snoopy_1611 () 13:07:19 --- join: MoALTz_ (~no@host-92-18-72-100.as13285.net) joined #forth 13:07:57 --- quit: MoALTz (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 13:35:17 --- part: _phred left #forth 13:37:55 --- join: Snoopy_1611 (Snoopy_161@dslb-188-107-198-023.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 13:44:13 --- join: MayDaniel (~MayDaniel@unaffiliated/maydaniel) joined #forth 14:02:13 --- join: Gmind (~nevermind@113.190.181.201) joined #forth 14:10:11 --- quit: MayDaniel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14:56:37 --- quit: Gmind (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 15:24:12 --- quit: MoALTz_ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 15:34:25 --- quit: nighty^ (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke) 16:03:39 --- quit: segher (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 16:06:09 --- join: segher (~segher@5ED3C3A7.cm-7-4d.dynamic.ziggo.nl) joined #forth 16:08:59 --- quit: ygrek (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 16:09:09 --- quit: Snoopy_1611 () 16:30:03 --- join: Snoopy_1611 (Snoopy_161@dslb-088-069-128-191.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 17:42:15 --- join: Bahman1 (~Bahman@2.146.18.206) joined #forth 17:42:30 --- quit: Bahman1 (Client Quit) 17:42:55 --- join: Bahman1 (~Bahman@2.146.18.206) joined #forth 17:44:30 --- quit: Bahman (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 18:08:33 --- quit: Bahman1 (Quit: Leaving.) 18:19:16 --- quit: I4router (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18:23:41 --- join: I4router (~mark4@24-183-5-217.dhcp.fdul.wi.charter.com) joined #forth 18:33:17 --- join: Gmind (~nevermind@113.190.181.201) joined #forth 18:33:58 --- quit: tathi (Quit: leaving) 18:36:37 --- join: Snoopy_1711 (Snoopy_161@dslb-178-004-077-002.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 18:38:20 --- quit: Snoopy_1611 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 18:42:55 --- quit: Snoopy_1711 () 20:58:19 --- join: Snoopy_1611 (Snoopy_161@dslb-088-069-141-050.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 22:35:56 --- quit: Gmind (Quit: Leaving.) 22:40:25 --- join: ygrek (~user@gateway/tor-sasl/ygrek) joined #forth 23:14:25 --- quit: foxes (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 23:15:47 --- join: Fox78 (~fox@123.121.61.106) joined #forth 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/11.11.08