00:00:00 --- log: started forth/11.08.22 01:32:17 --- quit: Fox78 (Remote host closed the connection) 01:43:23 --- quit: schme (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 01:44:30 --- join: schme (~marcus@c83-254-205-42.bredband.comhem.se) joined #forth 01:44:37 --- quit: schme (Changing host) 01:44:37 --- join: schme (~marcus@sxemacs/devel/schme) joined #forth 01:46:36 --- quit: ASau (Quit: off) 02:45:49 --- join: MayDaniel (~MayDaniel@unaffiliated/maydaniel) joined #forth 03:07:27 --- quit: MayDaniel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03:26:20 --- join: xpololz (~xpololz@50.80-203-124.nextgentel.com) joined #forth 03:51:43 --- join: MayDaniel (~MayDaniel@unaffiliated/maydaniel) joined #forth 04:03:55 --- quit: MayDaniel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04:13:33 --- join: nighty^ (~nighty@TOROON12-1279662182.sdsl.bell.ca) joined #forth 04:26:37 --- join: danieljames (~danieljam@94-193-7-241.zone7.bethere.co.uk) joined #forth 04:28:09 Hi, What do people recommend as a good introduction to forth on OS X? I have spent many moons googling but so far not been able to see the wood for the trees. 04:29:12 There're not so many open-source reasonably portable implementations. 04:31:05 has anyone had experience with something that is stable on Snow Leopard? 04:31:11 (And of those few implementations all are rather buggy. "Forth quality software.") 04:31:31 I see- what do you recommend? 04:31:40 I have absolutely _no_ idea how those names correspond to versions. 04:31:50 If you want others to understand you, tell "uname -mrs" 04:32:21 --- part: danieljames left #forth 04:33:07 If you want answer, you should stay on channel longer than one minute. 04:33:14 So long. 04:34:01 which one do you use generally? 04:34:23 I use my own. 04:34:37 Had to fork off pforth around new year. 04:34:39 da best kind 04:35:19 If you need it, I can commit a package to wip or even pkgsrc almost at any moment. 04:35:21 * DGASAU shrugs. 04:47:54 --- join: danieljames (~danieljam@94-193-7-241.zone7.bethere.co.uk) joined #forth 05:35:33 --- quit: martinhex (Excess Flood) 05:37:15 --- join: martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined #forth 06:07:50 --- join: Fox78 (~fox@123.121.68.96) joined #forth 06:29:45 --- join: gogonkt (~gogonkt@183.28.176.43) joined #forth 06:45:32 --- quit: nighty^ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06:53:11 --- join: nighty^ (~nighty@TOROON12-1279662182.sdsl.bell.ca) joined #forth 06:53:56 --- join: yunfan (~jyf@unaffiliated/yunfan) joined #forth 07:02:21 --- join: mark4 (~mark4@baldr.openesque.com) joined #forth 07:05:06 --- nick: mark4 -> I440r 07:05:13 --- mode: ChanServ set +o I440r 07:47:02 --- quit: Fox78 (Remote host closed the connection) 08:14:58 --- quit: gogonkt (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 08:41:58 --- join: gogonkt (~gogonkt@183.27.219.172) joined #forth 09:43:40 --- quit: yunfan (Quit: Leaving.) 09:54:07 Does anyone have any experience with a stable forth for Snow Leopard? 10:02:07 Yes. 10:02:36 Someone sure does. Whether he is present on the channel is another question. 10:02:53 If you want answers, you should ask real questions. 10:49:30 --- quit: gogonkt (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 10:50:16 --- join: gogonkt (~gogonkt@183.27.219.172) joined #forth 11:09:52 --- join: MayDaniel (~MayDaniel@unaffiliated/maydaniel) joined #forth 11:20:32 --- quit: MayDaniel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11:51:31 --- quit: ttmrichter|work (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 11:59:06 Ha ha, yes. I'm sure the omnipresent 'anyone' does. 12:00:35 --- join: MayDaniel (~MayDaniel@unaffiliated/maydaniel) joined #forth 12:01:03 You should have seen the reply I had when I asked about Lisp on their channel- it was even more sarcastic 12:11:52 --- quit: MayDaniel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12:23:35 --- join: tathi (~josh@dsl-216-227-119-3.fairpoint.net) joined #forth 12:25:20 danieljames: I've heard of people using gforth and pfe under OS X... 12:25:48 Yes I think I will try to build gforth I guess, to start off with 12:25:54 just about to download it actually 12:25:57 David N. Williams posted on comp.lang.forth recently about building gforth 32 and 64-bit for "Lion" 12:26:03 the other choice was pForth 12:26:08 http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.forth/browse_thread/thread/044c39ceba460607 12:27:21 tathi: thanks 12:28:08 I'd start with gforth, if you can build it without too much trouble. 12:29:13 pForth is a cute little system, but it's nice to start with something bigger so that when people mention various words they are more likely to exist already. :) 12:29:26 --- quit: martinhex (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12:29:26 But it all depends what you're looking for. 12:29:54 --- join: martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined #forth 12:31:56 The basic principles of the language are the same whatever you use. 12:49:40 --- join: ASau (~user@95-26-244-67.broadband.corbina.ru) joined #forth 13:23:08 --- quit: nighty^ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 13:25:52 seems to me like asau's main reason for being in this channel is to drive people away :/ 14:11:44 He does come across as kinda cranky 14:16:41 Make better implementations so that noone is ashamed when recommending them. 14:17:19 If one doesn't fear of dealing with problems he will stay anyway. 14:54:58 --- quit: qFox (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 15:07:13 --- join: Fox78 (~fox@123.118.154.10) joined #forth 15:46:03 --- quit: xpololz (Quit: Leaving) 16:29:32 --- quit: martinhex (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16:46:50 --- quit: fftw (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 16:46:51 --- join: fftw (~fastest@la-pinta.la.net.ua) joined #forth 17:20:54 --- join: martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined #forth 17:41:33 --- join: ttmrichter|work (6e502c2a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.110.80.44.42) joined #forth 17:58:42 --- quit: tathi (Quit: leaving) 18:46:04 --- join: gggirl (~gggirl@212-198-248-35.rev.numericable.fr) joined #forth 18:47:40 --- quit: gggirl (Client Quit) 19:28:20 --- join: nighty^ (~nighty@69-165-220-105.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined #forth 20:06:29 --- quit: nighty^ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 21:25:45 --- join: cybergggirl (~cybergggi@212-198-248-35.rev.numericable.fr) joined #forth 21:27:18 --- quit: cybergggirl (Client Quit) 21:46:56 --- quit: martinhex (Excess Flood) 21:47:26 --- join: martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined #forth 23:30:46 --- join: qFox (~peter@53526A79.cm-6-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl) joined #forth 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/11.08.22