00:00:00 --- log: started forth/11.08.07 00:06:51 --- quit: betta_y_omega (Read error: Operation timed out) 00:09:05 --- join: betta_y_omega (~betta_y_o@90.166.231.220) joined #forth 00:29:28 --- quit: betta_y_omega (Read error: Operation timed out) 00:36:42 --- join: betta_y_omega (~betta_y_o@90.166.231.220) joined #forth 02:22:43 --- quit: aguair (Remote host closed the connection) 02:24:00 --- join: aguair (~aguai@124.126.91.172) joined #forth 02:31:06 --- quit: aguair () 03:37:39 --- join: Fox78 (~fox@123.121.56.125) joined #forth 03:41:27 --- join: TreyB (~Adium@154.Red-217-125-82.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined #forth 04:08:48 --- quit: Fox78 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04:13:10 --- quit: TreyB (Quit: Leaving.) 05:22:02 --- join: Fox78 (~fox@123.121.56.125) joined #forth 05:40:22 --- quit: koisoke (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 06:58:52 --- quit: Fox78 (Remote host closed the connection) 07:34:23 --- join: MayDaniel (~MayDaniel@unaffiliated/maydaniel) joined #forth 08:09:09 does anyone know of a free forth for the Hitachi SuperH? 08:53:49 --- quit: MayDaniel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08:54:02 kevinfish: http://jiggawatt.org/badc0de/forthec/ 08:54:24 --- mode: ChanServ set +o crc_ 08:54:27 --- nick: crc_ -> crc 09:01:37 --- join: MayDaniel (~MayDaniel@unaffiliated/maydaniel) joined #forth 10:40:07 --- quit: MayDaniel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10:58:22 --- part: malorie left #forth 11:13:11 crc: ok, thx, I guess that's a start. Maybe I could cross compile an interactive one with that 11:24:57 --- quit: xpololz (Quit: Leaving) 11:59:37 --- quit: ygrek (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 12:03:41 Isn't gforth able to work on SuperH? 12:04:37 ASau: I was kinda hoping for one w/a forth assembler and a metacompiler 12:04:45 2 b a stand alone environment 12:04:56 This is incomprehensible. 12:05:46 If you have no time to write complete words, then you shouldn't be using Forth at all. 12:08:37 --- join: TreyB (~Adium@154.Red-217-125-82.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined #forth 12:13:23 --- quit: TreyB (Client Quit) 12:13:28 ASau: oh, complete words like ! and @ you mean? 12:27:57 "2 b" instead of "to be" 13:25:03 crc: hmmm... I thought this was the forth channel. Perhaps it is really the mislabeled cobol channel? 13:30:39 It doesn't mean that you can write line noise and be understood on the other end. 13:32:00 ASau: hmm.... my fault. I figured if you could understand ! and @ you might be able to also understand "2 b" 13:32:49 Guess I'm from the Mark Twain school of thought wherein he stated "I don't have any respect for a man who can't figure out more than one way to spell a word!" 13:33:07 А я считаю, что раз ты можешь понять "2 b", то можешь понять и вот это. 13:33:09 See? 13:33:23 ASau: yeah, that's really the same 13:33:50 kevinfish: I wouldn't be in a cobol channel 13:34:10 crc: maybe you should try it. I've heard they really like verbosity 13:35:22 I'm not against verbosity. Or abbreviations. Just non-necessary shorthand notations. 13:35:42 crc: and who decides what is necessary or not? 13:36:38 Tired of making few more keystrokes? 13:36:39 is it necessary to shorten "to be" to "2 b" (outside of possibly a cellular texting environment where characters are restricted)? 13:36:55 crc: but yes, absolutely if people on this group can't decipher "2 b".... 13:38:01 crc: well, it just came naturally because recently I've been spending many hours a day on IM and it saves at least hundreds of keystrokes 13:39:23 Oh, yeah. 13:39:34 well, its been lovely chatting w/y'all but I have to go, o&o (that's over and out for those who can't make that out either) 13:39:34 And writing in Forth does save keystrokes. :D 13:39:49 it makes it harder (to varying degrees) for others. not everyone will know what your particular abreviations mean, or be fluent in english 13:40:03 ASau: actually I've found it to be very terse, but I'm coming from a Polyforth background 13:40:43 How do you find various cryptographic libraries in Forth? 13:40:55 Are there any in public access? 13:41:12 ASau: yes 13:41:23 ASau: I just saw them. hang on a sec 13:41:47 I just remember recent complains about HMAC and various modern SHA and AES. :) 13:44:00 There're a lot more software missing in Forth. 13:44:35 When you find yourself recreating it, you'll understand how many keystroke you saved. 13:46:56 ASau: its called the forth foundation library. I'm looking for the URL 13:47:09 I know this library. 13:47:24 http://code.google.com/p/ffl/ 13:47:32 It doesn't have many things I used. 13:47:58 ASau: it has the sha-1 and 2 routines. I was just looking at them 13:48:44 ok, I'm out. It's been wonderful gentlemen :) 13:48:58 --- part: kevinfish left #forth 13:49:00 (In addition, it's use is very limited due to its licence.) 15:46:50 --- join: IAmHere (~IAmHere@c-24-8-204-152.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 17:39:20 --- quit: ttmrichter|work (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 18:01:34 --- join: ttmrichter|work (6e502c2a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.110.80.44.42) joined #forth 18:08:07 --- join: davazp (~user@238.Red-88-18-3.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined #forth 18:49:20 --- quit: ttmrichter|work (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 18:50:42 --- join: ttmrichter|work (6e502c2a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.110.80.44.42) joined #forth 19:39:38 --- join: IAmHere_ (~IAmHere@c-24-8-204-152.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 19:42:50 --- quit: IAmHere (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 19:42:50 --- nick: IAmHere_ -> IAmHere 20:33:45 --- quit: ttmrichter|work (Quit: Page closed) 20:40:24 --- join: ttmrichter|work (6e502c2a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.110.80.44.42) joined #forth 20:52:43 --- quit: davazp (Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)) 21:02:37 --- quit: ttmrichter|work (Quit: Page closed) 21:03:24 --- join: ttmrichter|work (6e502c2a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.110.80.44.42) joined #forth 21:52:31 --- nick: ttmrichter|work -> ttmrichte 21:53:12 --- nick: ttmrichte -> ttmrichter|work 23:01:26 --- quit: ASau (Quit: off) 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/11.08.07