00:00:00 --- log: started forth/11.02.21 00:28:32 --- quit: Joseph_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00:54:12 --- join: Joseph_ (~Joseph@c-68-84-165-215.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined #forth 02:01:22 --- join: Joseph__ (~Joseph@c-68-84-165-215.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined #forth 02:04:53 --- quit: Joseph_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02:05:41 --- quit: Joseph__ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02:32:35 --- join: imrehg (~imrehg@140.109.113.62) joined #forth 04:04:25 --- quit: imrehg (Quit: Leaving) 04:37:24 --- quit: gogonkt (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 04:38:21 --- join: gogonkt (~info@2001:5c0:1000:b::9373) joined #forth 05:15:26 --- join: fantazo (~fantazo@178-191-160-255.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #forth 05:34:33 --- quit: gogonkt (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 05:35:42 --- join: gogonkt (~info@2001:5c0:1000:b::8573) joined #forth 05:38:23 --- quit: nighty_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05:39:38 --- join: nighty (~nighty@x122091.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) joined #forth 06:07:21 --- quit: fantazo (Remote host closed the connection) 06:07:23 --- quit: gogonkt (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 06:08:08 --- join: gogonkt (~info@2001:5c0:1000:b::9167) joined #forth 06:24:44 --- join: MayDaniel (~MayDaniel@unaffiliated/maydaniel) joined #forth 06:32:17 --- join: nighty__ (~nighty@x122091.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) joined #forth 06:49:51 --- quit: dom96 (Quit: Bai!) 06:52:34 --- join: dom96 (~dom96@static.95.235.4.46.clients.your-server.de) joined #forth 06:52:56 --- quit: dom96 (Changing host) 06:52:56 --- join: dom96 (~dom96@unaffiliated/dom96) joined #forth 07:53:45 --- quit: MayDaniel () 08:01:46 --- join: Joseph__ (~Joseph@200-122.adsl.umnet.umich.edu) joined #forth 08:03:57 --- join: Deformative (~Joseph@200-122.adsl.umnet.umich.edu) joined #forth 08:06:50 --- quit: Joseph__ (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 08:18:14 --- quit: Deformative (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 08:36:07 --- quit: nighty__ (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 09:26:53 --- join: MayDaniel (~MayDaniel@unaffiliated/maydaniel) joined #forth 09:43:50 --- join: MayDaniel_ (~MayDaniel@unaffiliated/maydaniel) joined #forth 09:44:13 --- join: qFox (~C00K13S@5356B263.cm-6-7c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) joined #forth 09:46:35 --- quit: MayDaniel (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 09:52:55 --- quit: MayDaniel_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09:53:51 --- join: MayDaniel_ (~MayDaniel@unaffiliated/maydaniel) joined #forth 10:01:06 --- join: Deformative (~Joseph@caen-cse-141-212-202-124.wireless.engin.umich.edu) joined #forth 10:03:31 --- join: fantazo (~fantazo@178-190-238-31.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #forth 10:05:51 --- quit: Deformative (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 10:06:54 --- join: Deformative (~Joseph@caen-dow-141-212-204-145.wireless.engin.umich.edu) joined #forth 10:34:41 --- quit: MayDaniel_ () 11:07:33 --- join: Joseph_ (~Joseph@caen-dow-141-212-204-145.wireless.engin.umich.edu) joined #forth 11:10:44 --- quit: Deformative (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 11:14:14 --- join: ygrek (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ygrek) joined #forth 11:34:53 --- quit: Joseph_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 11:35:18 i just asked some general questions on #concatenative about the appropriateness of forth for average programmers 11:35:31 no one responded.. i guess no one cares, or maybe they're all asleep 11:35:46 anyway, i don't want to spam this channel with the same stuff, for those of you who are on both channels 11:35:59 so, if anyone cares, here's what i wrote in a paste: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/342421/ 11:41:07 --- join: Joseph_ (~Joseph@caen-eecs-141-212-212-17.wireless.engin.umich.edu) joined #forth 11:54:52 --- quit: Joseph_ (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 11:56:29 --- join: MayDaniel (~MayDaniel@unaffiliated/maydaniel) joined #forth 11:57:36 --- join: uiu (~ian@HSI-KBW-091-089-103-134.hsi2.kabelbw.de) joined #forth 11:58:17 pattern, the thing is... that conveniently coding forth actually needs a special hardware, software and so on. which is one reason why it goes always in that direction. 11:58:44 what special software? 11:59:01 you mean the software the programmer would build himself from scratch in forth? 11:59:04 or something else? 12:07:13 --- quit: uiu (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12:07:27 --- join: uiu (~ian@HSI-KBW-091-089-103-134.hsi2.kabelbw.de) joined #forth 12:10:47 --- quit: uiu (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12:11:07 --- join: uiu (~ian@HSI-KBW-091-089-103-134.hsi2.kabelbw.de) joined #forth 12:38:20 --- join: Joseph_ (~Joseph@caen-eecs-141-212-212-17.wireless.engin.umich.edu) joined #forth 12:39:58 --- quit: ygrek (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 12:42:15 pattern: sometimes there is software that forms a link to the host desktop computer to the embedded forth system 12:43:00 pattern: could just be a terminal emulator, could be something smarter 12:43:08 ah, i see 12:43:26 so that's for communicating with the embedded system.. like a pic programmer or something? 12:46:59 like an umbilical cord 12:47:59 --- quit: MayDaniel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12:50:04 * pattern nods 12:50:09 doesn't sound so bad.. 12:53:28 --- join: ygrek (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ygrek) joined #forth 13:04:13 --- quit: Joseph_ (Ping timeout: 267 seconds) 13:29:48 --- quit: qFox (Quit: Time for cookies!) 14:44:50 --- quit: fantazo (Remote host closed the connection) 14:50:19 --- quit: ygrek (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14:58:41 --- join: MayDaniel (~MayDaniel@unaffiliated/maydaniel) joined #forth 15:00:36 --- join: nighty__ (~nighty@x122091.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) joined #forth 16:33:19 --- quit: MayDaniel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20:20:05 --- join: _13h (dc86ee0b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.220.134.238.11) joined #forth 21:44:47 --- quit: gogonkt (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 21:51:22 --- join: gogonkt (~info@2001:c08:3700:ffff::28:c9c9) joined #forth 23:12:45 --- join: ygrek (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ygrek) joined #forth 23:58:18 --- quit: nighty__ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23:58:51 --- join: nighty__ (~nighty@x122091.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) joined #forth 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/11.02.21