00:00:00 --- log: started forth/10.12.26 00:33:50 --- quit: ASau (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01:05:02 --- join: qFox (~C00K13S@5356B263.cm-6-7c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) joined #forth 01:26:35 --- join: I440r (~mark4@c-69-136-171-118.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined #forth 01:26:35 --- mode: ChanServ set +o I440r 01:27:14 --- join: ASau (~user@89-178-225-212.broadband.corbina.ru) joined #forth 01:44:41 --- quit: I440r (Quit: Leaving) 01:57:14 --- quit: gogonkt (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 01:58:48 --- join: gogonkt (~info@183.27.210.150) joined #forth 02:46:18 --- quit: ASau (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03:13:22 --- join: ASau (~user@95-24-172-135.broadband.corbina.ru) joined #forth 03:57:53 --- quit: segher (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 04:08:15 --- quit: ASau (Remote host closed the connection) 04:09:17 --- join: ASau (~user@95-24-172-135.broadband.corbina.ru) joined #forth 04:55:04 --- quit: ASau (Remote host closed the connection) 04:58:03 --- join: ASau (~user@95-24-172-135.broadband.corbina.ru) joined #forth 05:11:15 --- join: frunobulax (~mhx@e182216.upc-e.chello.nl) joined #forth 05:32:53 --- join: MayDaniel (~MayDaniel@unaffiliated/maydaniel) joined #forth 05:37:03 --- join: martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined #forth 05:42:16 --- quit: qFox (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06:22:12 --- join: tathi (~josh@dsl-216-227-95-5.fairpoint.net) joined #forth 06:29:10 --- quit: ygrek (Quit: Leaving) 06:41:54 --- quit: MayDaniel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08:09:06 --- join: TreyB (~Adium@adsl-75-53-203-31.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) joined #forth 08:47:29 --- quit: TreyB (Quit: Leaving.) 08:55:13 --- join: MayDaniel (~MayDaniel@unaffiliated/maydaniel) joined #forth 09:08:31 --- quit: gogonkt (Quit: leaving) 09:08:44 --- join: gogonkt (~info@183.27.210.150) joined #forth 09:11:08 --- quit: gogonkt (Client Quit) 09:11:19 --- join: gogonkt (~info@183.27.210.150) joined #forth 09:23:05 --- join: TreyB (~Adium@adsl-75-53-203-31.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) joined #forth 09:32:21 --- quit: TreyB (Quit: Leaving.) 09:38:47 --- join: TreyB (~Adium@75.53.203.31) joined #forth 10:13:00 --- quit: TreyB (Quit: Leaving.) 11:35:31 --- quit: nighty-- (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 12:13:31 Alright. 12:13:53 I didn't want it, but this is the final point. 12:14:25 I'm not going to communicate with Phil anymore. 12:14:52 Let him burn in hell. 12:15:15 I'm tired of explaining what's wrong with pforth. 12:27:28 --- join: qFox (~C00K13S@5356B263.cm-6-7c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) joined #forth 13:03:17 --- join: Judofyr (~judofyr@cC694BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no) joined #forth 13:45:19 --- quit: qFox (Quit: Time for cookies!) 13:52:33 ASau: that sucks. 13:52:37 Is it worth forking? 14:12:20 If I receive confirmation of legal status. 14:12:41 In fact, I've forked already. 14:13:14 If I receive confirmation, I'll publish sooner. 14:13:19 Ah. 14:13:28 Otherwise, I'll publish when all the code is replaced. 14:14:01 What's the current license? 14:15:12 Oh, I see, a public-domain dedication thingy. 14:18:28 Want any help? 14:34:41 It is completely unclear. 14:35:09 Phil says it's public domain, Google lists it as MIT, 14:35:33 but files carry copyright notices with no licence terms. 14:36:50 Ah. 14:36:54 Bleh. 14:39:46 It would be nice to get clarification of terms. 14:48:41 I know what can be easily rewritten. 14:48:55 Command line interface part :) 14:52:11 Yeah? 14:57:55 Original pforth's is just brain damage. 14:58:29 If anyone really needs getopt(3) source, he knows where to find it. 14:58:51 There's absolutely no need to invent it. 14:59:23 Yeah. 15:07:02 --- quit: Judofyr (Remote host closed the connection) 15:13:37 I fixed bug when pforth didn't follow usual getopt semantics. 15:14:12 It implements its own getopt :) 15:36:13 the MIT thing on google code may be due to the fact that google code doesn't (or didn't when I last checked) allow for choice of pd as a license (due to legal reasons) 16:06:11 crc: so, you see, I have no other choice than forking :\ 16:06:36 I see nothing wrong with forking 16:07:08 --- quit: MayDaniel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16:07:45 just give it a clear license. PD is too unreliable to be practical :( 16:30:37 Why? 16:32:21 where in the world can you legally give up your copyright? 16:34:41 Is it that bad? I thought it was just Germany that didn't recognize public domain. 16:38:15 I'm still searching for something conclusive to support the notion that my code/documentation can become public domain before the copyright timespan expires in the U.S. 16:49:17 --- join: TreyB (~Adium@adsl-75-53-203-31.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) joined #forth 16:55:53 I'm sure that before last amendments to civil code you could do it here. 16:56:25 I think that it should be possible there where you live too. 16:56:41 Dan Bernstein argued about it. 16:57:38 it *should* be possible here; there's just no clear way to do it :( 16:58:02 plus, it gets trickier when accepting contributions from users in other countries 17:05:00 --- join: nighty-- (~nighty@x122091.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) joined #forth 18:36:24 --- join: idisblueflash (~fox@123.121.75.248) joined #forth 18:36:31 --- nick: idisblueflash -> Fox78 18:44:14 --- quit: frunobulax (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19:34:55 --- join: cataska (~cataska@210.64.6.233) joined #forth 20:32:11 --- quit: TreyB (Quit: Leaving.) 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/10.12.26